I just don't see anyone trading up to the #1 spot honestly...
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If thats the case, we should take the BPA. We can't afford a Leinart/Young screw-up. We just can't. Just another reason Pioli should be fired 15 minutes after the the Denver game - in the plane. After all - he thought Matt Cassel was was our answer at QB. Pioli is a FOOL.
We can't afford to keep having Cassel/Quinn types at QB either. I'm not getting your Leinart/Young comparison at all though. This is just a simple statistical comparison.
Vince Young's college stats:
2003: 84/143 (58.7%), 1155yds (8.1ypa), 6:7 TD:INT --- 135 carries for 998 yards and 11 TDs
2004: 148/250 (59.2%), 1849 yds (7.4ypa), 12:11 TD:INT --- 167 carries for 1079 yards and 14 TDS
2005: 212/325 (65.2%), 3036 yards (9.6ypa), 26:10 TD:INT --- 155 carries for 1050 yards and 12 TDs
Leinart (his rushing stats are withheld b/c they don't really matter)
2003: 255/402 (63.4%), 3556 yards (8.8ypa), 38:9 TD:INT
2004: 269/412 (65.3%), 3322 yards (8.1ypa), 33:6 TD:INT
2005: 283/431 (65.7%), 3815 yards (8.9ypa), 28:8 TD:INT
Geno Smith
2010: 241/372 (64.8%), 2763 yards (7.4 ypa), 24:7 TD:INT --- 106 carries for 217 yards 0 TDs
2011: 346/526 (65.8%), 4385 yards (8.3 ypa), 31:7 TD:INT --- 56 carries for -33 yards and 2TDs
2012: 327/466 (70.2%), 3597 yards (7.7ypa), 37:5 TD:INT ratio -- 59 carries for 150 yards and 2 TDs
Matt Barkley
2009: 211/352 (59.9%), 2735 yards (7.8ypa), 15:14 TD:INT ratio
2010: 236/377 (62.6%), 2791 yards (7.4ypa), 26:12 TD:INT
2011: 308/446 (69.1%), 3528 yards (7.9ypa), 39:7 TD:INT
2012 246/387 (63.6%), 3273 yards (8.5ypa), 36:15 TD:INT
My basic conclusions just looking at this.
1.) Young was pretty much a running quarterback, but did show improvement in the passing area his senior year.
2.) Leinart showed gradual improvement in completion percentage, but was relatively flat everywhere else.
3.) Barkley has had a bad season this year, and never really blows you away.
4.) Geno has improved on his completion percentage and TD:INT ratio each year. He's not a running quarterback though. He's probably the most unique quarterback out of all 4 of these guys. This is the guy I want KC to take.
I just don't get where you are getting these Leinart/Young comparisons...
^^This from another thread sums up the Chiefs situation 100% correctly.
You can draft Defensive players in the 1st round until you are blue in the face -- which is what the Chiefs have done, BTW -- but if you don't have a quality QB that can throw the football better than what the Chiefs currently have on their roster, then you can scratch it as far as any post-season success goes.
If Geno Smith finishes the season playing well & plays well in a Bowl game, All-Star game, and shows well at the Combine, then he is a guy that the Chiefs have to try and take.
One thing I'm failing to understand. How can so many Chiefs fans be on board with drafting a Safety -- a position that provides minimal positional value or impact -- at #5 in 2010 under the old CBA and then turn around and say it's not worth taking a chance on a QB at #1 under the new CBA, if they can't trade down a few slots? That is completely illogical.
Atleast with Barkley out hurt we won't. Be drafting him.
I don't think ANY team will want to trade up to the #1 slot so we have to go BPA with that pick and then trade back into the first round with our second pick. I'm OK with reaching for Geno Smith but he is the ONLY QB I would be willing to reach for.
we need to win a couple of games to drop 5 spots then we won't have this problem