Btw, the "much better than Philly's" offensive line thing, I assume you mean because of injury. Jason Peters was probably the best offensive lineman in all of football, and was out for the entire year with an achilles. Jason Kelce was being touted as a future probowl player and Todd Herrimans is a borderline probowl alternate type, all out for the year. That's the only reason their line was bad. With those three in, plus Evan Mathis who is good, it's actually a pretty good line. But yes, Foles could definitely be a franchise QB with the right coaching and the right players around him.
http://walterfootball.com/draftchart.php), Philly is actually winning out.
The #1 is worth 3000, and the #4 is worth 1800, which means Philly has to give us 1200 points. The #36 is worth like 550 or so points.
So assuming Foles is worth less than the 26th pick (which if he were worth more in Philly's eyes, they would probably try to make him work) it would work out evenly or in Philly's favor. They may need to make some more swaps of late round picks, or put in a conditional clause for some picks next year.
Granted it is all hypothetical, and who knows if they still use the trade value chart anymore.
I'd KILL for Foles!!
Swap 1st round picks with Philly for Foles!! Done and Done!! They get Geno before Jax gets a chance. We get to trade down and take BPA and get our QB in one felled swoop.
That having been said, thanks for the evaluation from someone who has watched him recently.
As far as Asomougha, I don't think it's coaching. I'm watching him and he is just slow. He doesn't have the athleticism of a 25 year old. He's really just lost a step and is not the same guy.
As far as the trade value chart, yeah, you make a really good point about the enormous value of the #1 overall pick, but I think that that assumes that there is an Andrew Luck in the draft. With this particular draft, I don't think anyone really believes that there is a 1200 point difference between who goes 1st and who goes 4th. Although, you kind of need to see how it plays out after the combine and all that. Just based on my own humble opinion, I would trade #1 for #4 and Foles in a heartbeat and probably even throw something else in if I had to.
But regarding the Foles trade, I would be ok with Foles plus maybe a mid round pick. I wouldn't hate the idea of straight up Swapping picks for Foles, but I think Philly would be getting the best value out of the deal, even though we would be getting a QBOTF, which I am assuming, once again, that if Reid wanted him enough to trade for him, he would be probably be worth it in the end.
The more I think about it, the more I hope that Geno blows everyone away at the combine, and all the other QBs suck. If there is only one QB that stands out this year,it makes the #1 pick that much more valuable, for trade down, or make it worth it for us to take Geno.