This drive is the ballgame
This drive is the ballgame
Chiefs had some chances in the passing game but like the past few season drops hurt them
Ok someone has to say it Cassel cost us the game tonight
I thought overall the first team and special teams stood out and played really well. I'm excited about our special teams. Bray played better then Stanzi. Knile Davis looks like the real deal if he can hold on to the ball. The Jamal Charles and Alex Smith combo looked like a match made in heaven. I Know it's just one preseason game but that's what I got from it. GO CHIEFS!
Another lost game and season..wow just wow
156 & 59 lol that's our passing and rushing yard!! Nit for the half for the game. 15 1st downs. We gave up 4 sacks and over 450yards on D. I don't want to hear it's a meaningless game!!!!
The saints made a living throw the ball against Agnew in the 2nd half he won't be in the game when it's the real season he might have just played his way off the team. Calm down it's game 1 preseason
Did we see Smith in a 3rd in long tonight? No we didn't so we can't yet judge what he will do when it's 3rd and long. When we see him fail in 3rd and long then we can complain but not when he has had 1 drive and scored a touchdown on that drive. You're just complaining to complain about the qb you don't like
To show the sky is not falling and the 1st preseason game means very little take a look at this from the 1st preseason game a year ago and how awesome the team looked. And remember just how bad the season was
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201208...alyze=boxscore
I'm not fooled I'm not saying Smith is a lock for the pro bowl or anything of the sort. I'm just saying there was nothing to complain about when a guy gets 1 drive and takes it downfield and scores a Td. Now you are telling me not to get to excited about 1 drive but you're using 1 drive to say see hes like Cassel. That drive just happens to be the first drive of the preseason which in most cases is the most Bland generic drive a team will run all season. I'm sure they will throw passes over 8 yards during the season calm down. There's hardly anything to judge and so far the only results are positive. When that changes then you can rightfully complain but not after 1 drive
vanilla playcalling in a pre season game!!!! we gonna be 0-16!!!
You know, what Smith did with the Offense last night was very much like what Rich Gannon did in his heyday. And did anybody really think realistically that they were going to have the 1st-team Offense go bombs-away in the 1st pre-season game?
People forget that this team needs to be able to make the dink & dunk plays work first before worrying about the downfield stuff. They'll get around to throwing the ball downfield when the time is right.
BTW, as far as the "Alex Smith, game manager" aspect goes, am I the only one who noticed that the 49ers Defense suffered last year when the change was made at QB from Alex Smith to CK? And does anybody really believe that the Chiefs Defensive players are going to moan and groan about the Offense keeping long-term possession of the ball and keeping the Chiefs Defense off the field? Fat chance, because if that happens, then nobody is going to score much against the Chiefs Defense in 2013.
You are missing the point completely & blatantly, I might add. Consistently moving the ball & picking up first downs aka Rich Gannon, and not being a turnover machine like Cassel was, is what your going to see mostly from Alex Smith -- as matt has pointed out to you repeatedly. Besides, this O-Line hasn't shown yet that they can consistently allow any QB to stand back in the pocket & fire the deep ball repeatedly & neither did SF's O-Line when Smith was the QB, or CK for that matter.
Smith does throw the ball down the field when the opportunities are there. If not for penalties in the 49ers game against the Bills, Smith would have gutted the Buffalo defense for 450+ yards passing in that game. A more accurate statement is that Smith doesn't throw the ball down the field 'recklessly, needlessly, or in desperation'
As for 3rd and 10 or 3rd and 12, the secret is to make the basic plays work on 1st and 2nd downs so your not in those situations -- something Cassel could not do consistently -- EVER. Smith did it repeatedly last night & he carried the Offense on that 1st series.
I suppose now that all season long that any opposing Defense that Smith has success against is automatically going to be a "scrub defense" in your mind.
Doesn't mean the Saints Defense will be the worst THIS YEAR. Niners defense folded down the stretch last year and there are no guarantees they will be one the top Defenses this year. Pre-season in general is NOT a legit test. Watch the regular season game against the Giants or Bills for a legit test as both those teams seem to have the Chiefs number.
Correct lets look at the niners 2010 even Cassel lite the niners d up 2011 the niners with mainly the same d was much better. We know nothing of the NFL this year.Add to it the saints hired a brand new DC so we don't know what is going to happen with them
My man is just proving me right. He has already made up his mind that Alex Smith is going to fail. No matter what he does My man will just say Yeah But. We can only judge what we have seen on the field right now Smith is 1 drive 1 TD. NOTHING to complain about. Nothing to say yep he's going to take us to the superbowl but so far so good. 1 drive which as I stated before in most cases is the most bland drive a team will run all year long. So while there's nothing to get excited over and say Smith is THE GUY it is at least a baby step in the right direction game 3 of the preseason is when we will see a glimpse of what Smith is going to do. That's as close to a real game we will see all preseason
I personally was at that Niners game on Sept. 26, 2010, and I can tell you for a fact that Alex Smith was NOT the reason the Niners lost. In fact, Smith was one of the few Niners players that didn't quit or give up in spite of a hopeless situation.
For me, there is something to get excited about if Smith can run this new Offense under Andy Reid and play QB in the manner that Rich Gannon did. Gannon just drove opposing Defenses insane by constantly making the little plays work and converting 3rd down into 1st and keeping possession of the ball. If the Chiefs can get that type of QB play from Alex Smith this year, and not have their Defense constantly being on the field ( and constantly defending a short field ), then nobody is going to score a whole lot against them. If they are constantly going 3 and out or turning it over in their own territory like last year, then forget it -- they might as well send the damn cheerleaders out to play Defense.
Here is what I saw:
I saw a QB who was firmly in control of his offense and did everything he wanted to do. He was 7 of 8 for 68 yards of an 80 yd TD drive with a passer rating of 102.1. He completed every single pass he threw except for one when everyone was covered and he wisely threw it away out of bounds. And most importantly, he didn't turn the ball over!
What is surprising is he didn't use his wide receivers at all in that drive. How much more explosive can this offense be when Bowe and Baldwin get invoved?
I saw the Chiefs offense get 6 first downs in that drive and only two of them came after 3rd down. And he did all of this without much of a running attack which we know will be one of the best in the NFL, this year.
The play calling was very vanilla and, yes, it was against a suspect defense. But my focus was on execution and the passes were crisp and on target and our receivers didn't drop them.
I'm anxious to see them air it out more and get the running game going and I'm sure we will see how they do with that in the near future. But right now I'm not too concerned with what we didn't see. I care about what we did see.
And I liked what I saw.
All I am saying it is the Saints, who will most likely have one of the worst defenses in the NFL. I don't believe their 2 betteer defensive players played; Vilma and Smith. Everyone is jumping up and down about ONE drive against a scrub defense. We have seen this before and there is no reason to get excited.
We will see what happens against SF, a legit defense.
The first team players passes were caught in stride which is something that has been severely lacking during the previous regime. That's all I really wanted to see in the first game along with no injuries.
No ones jumping up and down.
You just came on complaing that they didn't just air the ball out. All I and others have said is so far so good and that there is nothing to complain about. Find me one person who said that Alex has proven anything. He looked good last night. That's all that has been said. When we see him fail constantly on 3rd and long. Then we can worry until then just watch and see. There's no need to sit here and go on and on about "dink and dunk". It was 1 drive. That's hardly a fair range to judge a guy one way or anther. But that's what you want to do.
So ok if we are going to judge on the 1st game of the preseason I want you to compare your boy Geno to Cassel. His average was 6.7 YPC last night so wasn't he dinking and dunking or does he get more time then 1 preseason game because you happen to like him. See how silly this talk about dink and dunk is after 1 drive.
Wow mmh is so dang bitter I am watching the game right now. Second pass was 7 yards to fasano. So while it was not 30 yards it was more than the stated2. This is andy reid football ger used to it.
To make his argument sound better he averaged it out himself, like the flare pass to Charles behind the line= -2 yards air time. It's all about the downfeild air time baby.
I thought his passes were crisp and led the reciever in stride, and the short passing game is just an extension of the run game imo.
The comparisons between Cassel and Alex Smith are totally ludicrous. Alex Smith has always had much more poise and awareness in the passing pocket than Cassel has ever had. It's not even remotely close. Go watch the completion to Charles that put the ball inside the 5-yard line last Friday night. I'll bet money that Cassel doesn't make that completion.
Smith also does a much better job of reading defenses than Cassel ever could. The Saints were dropping 7 and 8 guys into coverage on every single passing play & Smith read it perfectly and went to the open man underneath their coverage instead of trying to needlessly force the ball down the field & that's the type of poise and patience the Chiefs haven't had at QB for many years since Trent Green was there.
That is all Alex Smith does is throw checkdowns. 73% of his passes last year were under 10 yards. He and Cassel are very similar.
That will be our offense, you wait and see. It is going to be checkdown city, and when we play against legit d's that can cover it ain't gonna be pretty.
Cassel and smith are similar is some ways but there is a big difference in Smith is more accurate and makes better decisions one of the things that stuck with me from the one drive oddly enough was the 1 incomplete pass that Smith threw. Smith kept the play going with his legs a bit then saw it wasn't there and THREW THE BALL AWAY. That's something we didn't see from Cassel. He would have tried to force a pass or would have just held on to the ball and taken a sack. That's a pretty big difference from what we've seen from Cassel. If Cassel was a touch more accurate with his throws and made better decisions then he would be a good QB. He just hasn't shown that ability
That's funny, I saw Smith repeatedly throw the ball down the field against the same Buffalo Defense that smothered Cassel and the rest of the Chiefs Offense just a few games before & Smith would have had around 450 yards passing if not for a couple of penalties. I also saw him him makes some some nice medium distance throws against GB on opening day last year ( and other teams for that matter ).
I also saw Alex Smith carry the Niners to their playoff win over the Saints in the post-season after 2011 -- both with his arm and his legs. Cassel could have never done that.
Cassel and Smith are only similar in your mind. They aren't similar on the football field when it comes to taking care of the football or when it comes to pocket poise and pocket presence or reading opposing defenses. I've seen repeated evidence of that -- even up close and personal.
And good luck finding any LB or Safety that can cover a healthy Jamaal Charles one-on-one on a repeated basis throughout a game. Point is the Defense can't take away everything & basically what you are trying to say is Alex Smith has no ability to throw the ball down field and that just isn't true. He can, but his main objective is the first down marker -- very much like Rich Gannon in his heyday.
He did play well against the Saints, but that is clearly the exception to his usual play style. He never did anything like that before and hasn't since. He didn't have 450 passing yards against Buffalo, he had 303. In fact, he only has ONE 300 yard passing game the past 1.5 seasons and I think, dont quote me on this, 3 for HIS ENTIRE CAREER.
Cassel and Smith are both checkdown crazies, you and I both know it. How do you explain his yards per season? 73% of passes under 10 yards? Never throwing for 20 tds in a year? Only three 300 yard games in 7-8 seasons?
The answer to these questions are obvious:
He is a checkdown guru.
Let me say this again about you and your most of his pass are short pass under 10 yards. Though I'm sure you will once again just ignore it but
THAT'S ANDY REIDS SYSTEM
Don't believe me go look at Mcnabbs stats his HIGHEST Average ypc was 8.38 yet he still did well. He won in the playoffs and even went to a superbowl Did he suck to?