what's in Obamacare. has anyone read it???
what's in Obamacare. has anyone read it???
I would say that out of all of my friends here in Germany, about 80% of them asked me today if I knew the difference between Obamacare and ACA. They know I am American but I wish they knew I am not stupid. Do not know what is going on over there but wish the heads would get out of their butts and at least compromise on something. For one thing, Obamacare is happening, now Congress should act to make this bill better for all.
right here. Keep in mind that 14 changes have already been made by Congress and 5 others have been imposed by Royal Decree ... I mean executive order of President Obama without the approval of Congress. More info
I try to pay close attention to the bills being made up in Congress, could you link me to the bills that the Republicans were trying tobring as a compromise?
Now you all claim Obama has changed the law, from the first link here is a passage which does not say he changed the law, just how it is executed which is his job. In fact it is the Republicans in Congress that are trying to be the executive branch by delaying this law that was passed by the Legislature branch.
Mr. Obama has also acted on his own, declaring five separate delays this year. Most recently he announced one-year delays on checking the applicants for exchanges to see if they should have employer-based coverage.
Now to say he has given exemptions to his buddies, or toCongress, etc. There have been so many reports that these exemptions are nottrue. In fact, a discussion show here in Germany brought this up and this wasbrought up. Where ever this was brought up, it just is not fact. Big business doget an extra year to implement.
Now why cannot the Republicans just let this go. If itindeed turns out to be bad, then it can be reversed. And if they really did tryto make another bill for healthcare or to change this without getting rid ofthe good parts, like coverage for people with pre-conditions under the sameprice, then I guess the rest of the world also missed it because no one seemsto have heard it.
Around the world, Americans, or in this case, the republicans are being made out to be heartless people. I was republican when Imoved to Germany. I was very pro-Bush. After some years here and seeing how a good system can work, it woke me up and I could see how bad things really are in the USA. Love the USA, love the Chiefs, but I do not see USA staying in one piece if this keeps up. That is with either party being President or not. The President cannot lead a room full of people that do not want to be lead.
I don't know where you're getting your news but it would help if you provided links that gave a frame of reference. I have been following this closely almost everyday and from what I understand is first the House GOP Offered to fund the entire government except for Obamacare, then they offered to only delay the individual mandate and repeal the medical device tax (a bipartisan issue), then, if I'm not mistaken, it was to just delay the individual mandate like Obama did with big business in order to make it fair. I have found an article of the Fox News website that confirms the claims of exemptions.
Originally Posted by Article
Originally Posted by Article
Here's one about delays and exemptions:
Obama has changed the law pure and simple. The House GOP is doing what the majority of the American people are asking them to because this law was forced upon us. It was shoved through both houses while under Democratic control and signed by Obama ahead of the 2010 elections because he knew he didn't have a prayer after the elections. This law is extremely unpopular but it is what the Democrats wanted.
Now it is true that Americans did not want a shutdown either but it has been the House GOP that has continually tried to negotiate compromise and Obama and the Democrats would have none of it. The House GOP has been listening to their constituency and acting accordingly which is THEIR job as legislators, not only to introduce but to amend law which is why they can't just roll over and let this go as you put it. The price of these exchanges are outrageous and provides zero incentive for those 27-30 years old to enroll in this program which is the demographic needed to make this law "work". Most young people will simply pay the $95.00 fine when needed.
I would encourage you not to just get your news about what is going on in America from a German based news source.
One more link: http://www.house.gov/
I wouldn't say "compromise." "Alternative" would be more accurate. Republicans have introduced many healthcare reform Bills going all the way back to 2003, long before Democrats pushed through the ACA without a single Republican vote in the Senate. One of the biggest would be the Patients' Choice Act S. 1099. Then there are ...
The American Healthcare Reform Act, H. R. 3121 (full text) September 18, 2013
House Resolution 9. January 19, 2011
The Empowering Patients First Act, H. R. 3400 (full text), July 30, 2009
John McCain's Health Tax Credit, July, 2008
There are many others, as well, but I'm not going to take the time to find and list them all. You can do that yourself if you like. All of these were found quite easily with a quick Google search for "Republican Alternatives to the ACA." They didn't tell you about any of those in the German press, did they? I'm not surprised. The American press has given scant coverage to them as well.
Aside from the myriad of National proposals to reform health care, many States have introduced their own reforms, like Massachusetts did with "RomneyCare." Just one example would be the reforms introduced in South Carolina. Many feel that the one-size-fits-all nationwide approach is not the best solution. What works for Massachusetts or New York may not work for Montana or North Dakota.
Congress, on the other hand, does have the authority to write, introduce or change existing laws. They are legislators. That is exactly what legislators are elected to do---legislate.
In addition he has delayed the employer mandate until after the midterm elections, (so Democrats aren't hurt by the legislation) removed the requirement for businesses to report employee insurance status to the IRS, delayed the cap on out of pocket expenses for individuals (to help insurance companies line their pockets), and delayed the requirement for individuals to prove that they qualify for federal aid for insurance (to get as many people as possible into the state exchanges). He does not have the authority to do any of this. But he refuses to give individuals the same one year delay to get insurance so the exchanges can get more organized and they can get better educated on what their options are. I am legally required to get insurance by the end of the year but I can't sign up (or even find out what options are available) on the website because it keeps crashing, or by phone, because they don't have the staff to take the calls!Quote:
Restaurants in Nancy Pelosi's (D-Calif.) district have exemptions. As Americans for Prosperity notes, “When ObamaCare was in its infancy, the Obama administration began handing out waivers to employers for various other provisions of the law. In early 2011, the administration issued waiver after waiver to politically connected businesses [such as] restaurants and hip nightclubs in former-Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s district.”
Samaritan Health-Care Ministry has an exemption. They “led a successful fight to get language inserted into the law that specifically exempts health care sharing ministries from the individual mandate, which would have required that members buy a traditional health insurance policy or pay significant penalties. (source)”
Because they promised the people that elected them that they would do everything in their power to fix it. I know most politicians don't keep their promises, but at least these guys (and gals) are trying to.
Because they feel a moral obligation to stop a law that is forcing business to lay employees off or cut their hours in order to stay in business.
Because the law is already causing premiums to skyrocket.
Because the requirement for insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions (as it is currently written) will bankrupt them and put them out of business. Imagine if you didn't have to buy auto insurance until after you had an accident and they still had to pay to fix your car. How long would they stay in business?
Because people who are happy with their existing coverage and want to keep it, can't, because their employers are either switching to cheaper plans or raising the premiums so high that they can no longer afford them.
Because the individual mandate requiring people to buy a product (healthcare insurance) against their will is a violation of their basic human right to engage, or not engage in commerce and spend their own money as they see fit.
And besides, no "entitlement" once fully implemented has ever been rescinded or rolled back. Our nation is already over $17 trillion in debt and can't afford the additional cost. But once Obamacare starts their will be no way to stop it.
Maybe you can share this post with them and have them click on some of the links above.
We are not Germany and don't want to be, as great a country as it is. We have different needs, different freedoms, a different history and different laws. What works there (however well it works) will not necessarily work here.
What lead? The President has not led since he took office. All he has done is continue to campaign and cast blame. How can he lead when he refuses to negotiate or even talk to Republicans about making compromises that every one would be happy with? House Republicans are trying to pass continuing resolutions that will keep open at least the most essential parts of government until some kind of deal can be reached and he has promised to veto every one of them. It's "his way or the highway" as far as he is concerned. He wants to keep the Government shut down as long as possible to do as much damage as possible to the Republican party.
But it's not going to work. It will backfire on him eventually.
I guess only time will tell what will happen. In the meantime, I will read those bills.