I disagree with going after Peppers and Lewis and such! I would agree with anything "almost" to going after Boldin! I would love to see Bowe and Boldin as a tag team with TG taking care of the rest!
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I disagree with going after Peppers and Lewis and such! I would agree with anything "almost" to going after Boldin! I would love to see Bowe and Boldin as a tag team with TG taking care of the rest!
If it's my money? I keep our stud 24-year-old WR by paying him market value. I don't offer him a 4 year/$14M contract or any such nonsense.
Bowe's had four QBs (Thigpen, Gray, Huard, and Croyle) over his two years on the job. In 2007, he was stuck playing Herm-ball with Mike Solari. None of those are exactly NFL MVPs. And yet he ekes out 1,000 yards a year.
Something that should have become blindingly obvious to people, but apparently has not, over the Herm/CP era is that good players are not easy to replace with rookie draft picks. You can't replace Kawika Mitchell or Nap Harris with Pat Thomas. You can't replace Jared Allen with Glenn Dorsey. You can't replace Jimmy Wilkerson with Turk McBride. You can't replace Casey Weigmann with Rudy Niswanger. You can't replace Dwayne Bowe with some 6th round draft pick.
Good franchises don't let good players walk away when they can pay market value to retain them. If we don't pay Bowe, some other team will look at his age, his stats, his QBs, and his toughness, and snap him up. If you don't think that, then you vastly overestimate your knowledge of the NFL.
And the comparison between LJ and Bowe is asinine. Look at longevity figures for RB v. WR, and figure out why its good to sign one position long term and bad to sign the other.
*sigh*
1. Reggie Wayne, Lee Evans, and Santana Moss were the #1 WRs for their teams, not the #2s.
2. Fitzgerald, Breaston, and Boldin were in the most pass happy, prolific offense in the league run by a two-time NFL MVP.
Bowe had a retread, never-was, and 7th round waiver wire QBs (Huard, Croyle, and Thigpen) throwing to him in double coverage 2007 and 2008.
Dropping young stud players because you won't pay them market value is what bad teams do. You either get this or you don't.
What is fair market value for him, then?? How is that calculated?
What teams are looking at him?
Longevity? Yes...he can play longer so he should get less than an RB...I agree with that! LOL!
What do you suggest his salary should be? Man up and put a number on it, then maybe we can come to an agreement or agree to disagree!!
As far as knowledge of the NFL....I have seen MANY get a lot of cash and never succeed past that. I have seen MANY STAR recievers take a pay cut to get a SB ring, alas Owens and Moss and even Fitzgerald offered to restructure to keep Boldin.
Remember, I never said "do not pay him more", I said, don't go crazy with the figure.
He's not a free agent, so no one is looking at him right now. If he were a FA, very few teams wouldn't be.
Bowe should get a salary equal to Wes Welker's, at least. $35M over 5 years seems a pretty good value.
Owens took a pay cut to win a ring? You sure about that?
A WR can play longer so he should make less?
I just thank goodness that you are not even remotely in charge of this team. I wish you would go GM the Broncos or Chargers, and drive those teams into the ground by replacing their star players with low round draft picks.
Well lets see. He was 9th in the NFL in catches, 17th in yards, and 12th in TDs. So he's roughly the 12th or 13th most productive receiver in the league, right? Forgive my reasoning if it's wrong, but doesn't that mean he should easily be one of the 15 or so highest paid WRs? Numbers are irrelevant right now, it comes down to what that amounts to when he signs an extension.
Let me know if this is flawed reasoning.
Don't you get it? Becuase Bowe can be a long-term contributor to this team, we should offer him less than half of his market value! And he'll obviosuly resign with us because . . . . . . . ?
But don't worry, if he doesn't resign, we'll plug some 6th round draft pick in there. It worked for the front seven on our defense, right?
Well, it is not a contract year anyways so what's the problem?
Lots of low round draft picks make it very well in the league. Do you think evryone playing is/was a first rounder?
Jeeezz...Either you get it or you don't.
There is NO reason at this time to offer the money. NOW, IF he does even better next year I wuld not have a problem with it.
So, there. Whether you like it or not, it is the way I would handle it and regardless of my preference or yours, it does not matter. They are merely opinions.
I would like to work for you....I'd be a fackin multi-millionaire in 6 months. :beer: