The Cards were 9-7 last year. I dont know how people can saw we will not contend yet we have not even seen who is gonna be playing in September. Call me a homer if u must but 9-7 does not seem like a real strech to me!! :bananen_smilies046:
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9-7 isn't a stretch its what I expect from the Chiefs in 2009 but I don't think it'll win the divison. But with Denver collapsing from within, JMarc still at the helm in Oakland, and Norv Turner still shooting blanks in should win games it could happen the Chiefs take the division.
That being said...
9-7 might might merit a playoff berth if they were to not win the divison but then again it might not especially in the AFC. Just going by last years playoff teams look at New England, 11-5 and left in the dust because the Colts went 12-4 and scooped up the wild card berth since the Titans rocked the divison.
8-8, 9-7 gets you in the playoffs when your divison is in the process of rebuilding/just plaing bad but I don't think it'll be a consistent formula for success. Besides Chiefs got a pretty beastly schedule this year. I'll consider .500 or better a giant leap forward for the Cheifs in building a dynasty.
We'll see...Off season just began, so my assumptions as of right now are all premature and speculative at this point, so don't jot anything down as official.
I am not looking at 9-7 every year and hoping to make the playoffs, I am saying that if we win our division and the team gets hot in the playoffs then we can contend for the SuperBowl. I also think this will be a pretty damn good team come the 2010 season when we start winning double digit games and we become much more serious contenders!! :bananen_smilies046:
I didnt mean for the Chiefs to go 9-7 year in and year out what I meant was 9-7 in the NFL as a whole won't gaurentee you a playoff berth in a typical year.
I can see the Chiefs going under double digit regular season wins and still taking the AFC West if it continues its downward slump as it has been taking on as of late, but I'd be a little suprised if it did happen.
And I'll take post season success of the Cardinals over a double digit regular season win total any day. Let the Chiefs squeak in during the regular season and get hot during the playoffs and all is right. Superbowls cure all potential woes.
I think we have an excellent chance of winning the division next year... I'm not all that impressed w/ any team in the AFC west, and all AFC West teams play the same schedule so hopefully we can come out on top. Just look at how many games we lost last year by one possession (or something close to that)
-New England
-New York Jets
-Tampa Bay
-@ San Diego
-@ Denver
-San Diego
-Miami (we had only a FG in the 2nd half after scoring 4 TD the first half)
All these games w/ the 2 we won and we could have easily been 9-7...
As bad as we were I think this team is oozing w/ potential... if Pioli and Coaching staff can get these young guys together I think we should have a bright season in the AFC West...
And ultimately we need Waters on our O-line leading the way!
Yes Way... Take the Homer Glasses... You are living in the past. He made the pro-bowl thanks to Willie Roaf helping him. You can't tell me with a straight face that Brian Waters was oustanding last two years. If you can, you don't watch the line. Brian Waters himself even said he hasn't been playing like he is used.
The bills are interested in him because he would be a good pick up for a team looking to fill one whole on the line to win now. He is not a building block. You could get a viable guard to replace Waters in a year using the 3rd round pick. He could already be replaced with a player on this roster. The Chiefs gave up even more for John Welbourne...If that means anything to people willing to trade for him.
Im not living in the past.
trust me. When Will Shields was gettin blown off the line I looked and said hey he just aint what he used to be. If anybody is a "what have you done for me lately" guy..its me.
And its not Waters time. If it was Waters time, teams wouldnt be trying to obtain him.
he isn't the only real one.. Albert actually made him better, but before Thigpen and the spread where Thiggy rolled out of the pocket, Waters was looking Will his last year. The change in the offense complimented with Thigpen hid a lot of inefficiencys of Waters. The running game was still crap and they tried to run behind Waters.
If you can get a third and fifth Take it.