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    First let me say I was surprised the Raiders won....

    First let me say I was surprised the Raiders won.

    Second if you are going to point out blatant penalties overlooked by refs that affected the outcome of the game you can't ignore the holding...
  2. Thread: Chiefs Pessimism

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    Would be worth exploring, but looking at the ToP...

    Would be worth exploring, but looking at the ToP stats on NFL.com Chiefs had the ball on average 30:20 per game. So if the Defense was on field a significant amount of the first half one would have...
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    With these same players in 2012 the Chief's...

    With these same players in 2012 the Chief's defense accomplished the following.


    Gave up 19 runs of 20+ yards not many teams can say that. In fact only 1 team gave up more and 2 other teams...
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    Sounds great, but with everything you mentioned...

    Sounds great, but with everything you mentioned above and we were in worse shape last year and swept your "talented" team. 1-5 against KC in last 6 games and swept KC 2 out of last 3 years, this is...
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    Your points showed you didn't know what you were...

    Your points showed you didn't know what you were talking about for example...


    1. How is playing in 8 games, getting 15 tackles & 3 sacks "excellent"? Seymour wasn't even on the field the last...
  6. Thread: Chiefs Pessimism

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    So how does your team rank being 1-5 vs "the...

    So how does your team rank being 1-5 vs "the worst team in professional football" in the last 6 games? Not only that but you have picked before the Raiders in every draft since 2007 except one. One...
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    If you can't win without a QB then there is...

    If you can't win without a QB then there is reason for great pessimism in KC because Alex Smith is not the answer :smile. Flynn played much better in his two starts against playoff teams than Alex...
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    How so? Evidently you do not follow Oakland...

    How so? Evidently you do not follow Oakland enough so here is what has transpired in Oakland.

    1. Lost Seymour, Kelly & Bryant. Seymour & Kelly haven't done jack in 2 years and once both had...
  9. @NFLosophy was wrong...

    @NFLosophy was wrong...
  10. Thread: Raiders

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    Speaking of Raiders... How is Routt doing? I...

    Speaking of Raiders... How is Routt doing? I know some of you guys were happy as hell when he signed...
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    Stanzi might just turn into a good QB, I think he...

    Stanzi might just turn into a good QB, I think he was underrated coming out last year.
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    We lost 1 1st & 1 2nd not 2 1st. We are screwed...

    We lost 1 1st & 1 2nd not 2 1st. We are screwed if Palmer goes down with Prior and Leinhart as backups. Fortunately our OLine is solid and are running game will slow down the pass rush.
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    Excellent point on the attempts... Agree the...

    Excellent point on the attempts...

    Agree the AFC West is much better division then given credit for. What I don't agree on is the Raiders depend on one player (Palmer). We lost our best...
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    Well thought out response! I agree that Winston...

    Well thought out response! I agree that Winston is a MAJOR over Richardson but IMHO Albert would be All-Pro at LG but is average at best at LT. Adding Winston may make your Oline a lot better but I...
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    What injuries did your Oline and LBs have? ...

    What injuries did your Oline and LBs have? Injuries are part of the game and without injuries we would have swept you last year (again) and we would have made the playoffs.
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    Can someone explain how the Chiefs have the best...

    Can someone explain how the Chiefs have the best OLine and best LBs?

    They gave up more sacks then anyone in the AFC West except the Broncos and were worst yds/att in running. If the defense was...
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    That was an *** whipp'n!

    Defense did it's thing for you. We will see you again and next time it want be pretty!
  18. I gave you more credit than you deserved......

    I gave you more credit than you deserved... welcome to 2-4! :lol:
  19. Welcome to 3-3 want to start talking about 2012...

    Welcome to 3-3 want to start talking about 2012 draft? Raiders win this one...
  20. Thread: R.i.p

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    Thanks for keeping it classy on this board. I...

    Thanks for keeping it classy on this board. I have seen another Chiefs board that was completely classless!

    Al had a lot of enemies and as rivals it can sometimes get ugly. Al had his flaws but...
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    Thanks! :bananen_smilies046:

    Thanks! :bananen_smilies046:
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    Any chance you can provide a link? Specifically...

    Any chance you can provide a link? Specifically I am interested in where Jared Veldheer ranks. He has not given up a sack this year and our QB has only been pressured 10 times total.
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    Your team has been blown out 4 straight games and...

    Your team has been blown out 4 straight games and you are saying what? A few bogus calls gave this game to the Bills, if you watched you would know. At least we scored more that 7 and gave up less...
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    So you down play Oakland beating Denver by 3...

    So you down play Oakland beating Denver by 3 points in their home because Denver went 4-12 last year?

    You got blown out by Denver in their home which was one of their 4 wins or did you forget...
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    Raiders wish they had been blown out in their...

    Raiders wish they had been blown out in their last 3 games that count? Raiders wish they got blown out by Buffalo at home? Raiders are going to Buffalo to show you how to handle a scrub team like...
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