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    Default This proves it!

    Croyle Or Bust
    Jamie Squire - Getty
    By C.E. Wendler
    Warpaint Illustrated Columnist
    Posted Aug 17, 2007

    Everyone was talking about the quarterback competition in Kansas City Thursday night. Trent Green, ESPN, Carl Peterson, Joe Fan in the stands, Herm Edwards – no one would shut up about it. I’m going to be the first one – as soon as I finish this column (hopefully the last one with the words ‘Croyle’ and ‘Bust’ in the headline).

    The Chiefs have played this thing close to the vest for months now. In OTAs, Brodie Croyle, Damon Huard, and Casey Printers split reps evenly. In training camp, depending on the day of the week, the temperature in River Falls, the color of sweatshirt Herm was wearing that morning and what Dick Curl had for breakfast, it was either Croyle or Huard working with the first team. In scrimmages against the Vikings, Croyle worked with the starters in Mankato, while the opposite was true in Wisconsin.

    On HBO’s Hard Knocks, when Curl expressed confidence in his young passer, Chiefs GM Carl Peterson wisely interrupted with comments in favor of the veteran. And as if all this wasn’t enough, the official depth chart on KcChiefs.com is conveniently unsullied by quarterbacks.

    But Thursday night, watching Kansas City and Miami, it all became clear to me. The quarterback job in Kansas City belongs to the kid from Alabama.

    There is no competition.

    You didn’t even have to watch KC’s game against the Dolphins to figure it out – or the game in Cleveland. Just look at a box score.

    Croyle: Nineteen attempts.

    Huard: Nine attempts.

    If there is a competition, it’s weighted heavily in Croyle’s favor (maybe Trent Green was right). My best guess - there were only a few people at Arrowhead Thursday night who really want Huard to be the starting quarterback – Huard himself, his immediate family, and Carl Peterson.

    But Peterson doesn’t call the plays. The Chiefs have stressed this is supposed to be a “fair” competition. And they held to that until the preseason.

    Not anymore. While Huard is given a few token series, Croyle’s getting a baptism by NFL fire. Against the Browns, the Chiefs broke him in slowly with short, quick passes, but dropped the young quarterback back on nine of the 13 plays he was in the game. Last night, out of 19 snaps, the Chiefs called 12 passes for Croyle – and let him off the leash. He was slinging it down the field all evening.

    There’s more to this than mere numbers, too. When Huard relieved Croyle in Cleveland, the Chiefs inserted the backup offensive line. Last night, the veterans (Brian Waters, Casey Wiegmann, John Welbourn and Kyle Turley) stayed in when Croyle relieved Huard – and for more than one series. The Chiefs aren’t going to put Brodie’s battered knees at risk behind the second string.

    The disparity in attempts between the two quarterbacks will grow even larger following next week’s game against the New Orleans Saints. Croyle is scheduled to start, will play at least the first half and probably into the third quarter. The coaching staff will get a good, long look at him as he runs the closest thing to a real NFL gameplan for the first time in his career. Huard will throw a meaningless pass or two before giving way to Printers.

    Is it mere coincidence that everything worked out this way, or did the Chiefs really intend to put Huard at an enormous disadvantage in this “competition?”

    Maybe I’m shooting in the dark here. Maybe there aren’t a bunch of black helicopters circling Arrowhead Stadium, and when the regular season begins Herm Edwards will be holding up a newspaper with the headline "CROYLE DEFEATS HUARD" as he smiles like Harry S. Truman while declaring Damon his starter.

    But it sure seems like the Chiefs have made absolutely sure to let Brodie experience every major hotspot along the preseason journey as the starter – the scrimmage in Mankato, the first road game in Cleveland and (next week) the all-important third exhibition game.

    Can you really blame them? If you were in River Falls, you saw the difference between the two quarterbacks. Against the Dolphins, it was clear as day to anyone in the stadium or tuned into ESPN.

    The most exciting thing Damon Huard did in three series was float a ball to Tony Gonzalez for a first down. You kind of got the feeling he was looking around for Larry Johnson – who was probably smiling to himself in Manhattan every time Michael Bennett and Kolby Smith got stuffed behind the line of scrimmage.

    And then Croyle took the Chiefs down for their first offensive touchdown of 2007, and 80,000 people at Arrowhead (OK, 50,000) reacted as if they’d found Gates barbecue under their seats. Suddenly, no one cared about Trent Green (who looked old). All they cared about was the skinny kid with the howitzer on his right shoulder. The one who had fired a pass between two defenders 20 yards downfield to rookie tight end Michael Allan, just before he calmly flipped the ball into the hands of wide receiver Chris Hannon for six.

    The simple truth of the situation is that kid can make throws Huard wouldn’t dream of attempting.

    And yeah, maybe that kid came right back on the next series, threw an awful pass off his back foot – the kind that gives you bad dreams - and cost the Chiefs some points. That happens with young quarterbacks. It probably won’t be the last time it happens with Croyle. But let’s be honest here. The only other option is a guy who fumbled nine times last year and once hit Jason Taylor right in the hands with a pass.

    That isn’t to say I don’t like Damon Huard. It wasn’t so long ago I was one of the few people who believed in him. But the evidence is overwhelming at this point - it appears to me the Chiefs have already chosen to believe in Croyle.

    Why not join them?

    Get behind the kid.

    (about seven yards, Larry)
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    I honestly don't care who the starting QB is at this point. I just want to know so we can move on with the season!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by luv View Post
    I'm pretty sure that he doesn't know the author quite like we do.
    I, too, am certain of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    He has no idea how lucky he is.

    Yep!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Dog View Post
    The article from warpaint is dead on and I agree 100% with having Brodie Croyle as the starter. He will make mistakes that we will have to live with but the positives far out way the negatives. Even Tony Gonzalez said that he will be a star in this league. The longer we wait to get this kid in the longer it will take to get a championship. Carl and more importantly Herm love this kid and they are the ones that selected him and he was the start of the rebuilding in Kansas City when drafted last year. That is why Green is gone. Huard was the cheaper back up plan. Don't think that starting Huard will bring a championship to KC because we all know that will not happen. I would be extremely surprised if Huard was the starter and willing to bet what little arrowhead bucks I have on it!

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    The idea that Croyle is ready is a joke. 2 games, 2 VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY stupid interceptions. He's is averaging a bone-head play on every other series. At this rate we'll be 0-8 before he realizes how much that crap costs the team.

    I think it's Huard's job. He started and they ran the ball. What does that say to me? They don't need to see anything else from him - focus on where we need the work (blocking from the new O-line unit).

    Croyle comes in and Solari goes pass happy? Guess what: they don't know what he has or how he'll do. Had he thrown that interception away and we ended with 3 and out and a field goal attempt, then I think he is our new starter.

    As it is, I think he is our new #2 QB....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Dog View Post
    The article from warpaint is dead on and I agree 100% with having Brodie Croyle as the starter. He will make mistakes that we will have to live with but the positives far out way the negatives. Even Tony Gonzalez said that he will be a star in this league. The longer we wait to get this kid in the longer it will take to get a championship. Carl and more importantly Herm love this kid and they are the ones that selected him and he was the start of the rebuilding in Kansas City when drafted last year. That is why Green is gone. Huard was the cheaper back up plan. Don't think that starting Huard will bring a championship to KC because we all know that will not happen. I would be extremely surprised if Huard was the starter and willing to bet what little arrowhead bucks I have on it!
    Meh; noticing who authored the article I merely assumed the worse.

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