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    Huardís injury tilts Chiefs QB contest further toward Croyle

    By ADAM TEICHER

    The Kansas City Star



    Chiefs quarterback Damon Huard is hobbled by a leg injury and finds himself looking at a backup role.



    The Chiefsí quarterback competition appeared to be tipping toward Brodie Croyle anyway, but Damon Huardís sore leg could end all of the suspense.


    Huard didnít practice Monday. He stood close by with an ice pack on his chronically sore right calf. He noticeably favored the leg when he walked.


    Huard has been bothered by the sore calf during training camp, but this was the first time he missed a practice because of it. There was no indication the injury would keep him out long term, but the Chiefs were unsure whether he would practice today or play in Thursday nightís preseason game against New Orleans at Arrowhead Stadium.


    ďI donít know that,Ē coach Herm Edwards said. ďIíve got to check with the trainer to see what he says. Weíve got another couple of days to see where he is.Ē
    Edwards said over the weekend that Croyle would start against the Saints and play the entire first half and perhaps into the third quarter.


    Asked what Huardís absence on Thursday night might do to the quarterback battle, Edwards said: ďThen you have to make the decision based on the information you have on hand. Weíll go back over the preseason games and the practices and everything else. Thatís how weíll make our decision. This (wouldnít) kill (Huardís) chances.Ē


    Huard declined to comment.


    Ever since last seasonís end, Edwards appeared to be leaning toward making Croyle the starter. Edwards talked in the immediate hours after the playoff loss to Indianapolis about the need to get Croyle ready to play this season.


    Since then, the Chiefs re-signed Huard, who would have been a free agent, and traded Trent Green to Miami, but Croyle was always a central figure in their plans. Before the trade, Green was hesitant to return to the Chiefs because he feared the quarterback competition would be tilted in Croyleís favor.


    Croyle and Huard split the work almost equally until Monday. Nothing the Chiefs have seen from Croyle, not even the two seemingly preventable interceptions in the two preseason games, has soured them.


    Edwards has been noncommittal publicly since the start of training camp about the quarterback battle. But he has said he wants to settle on a quarterback for the foreseeable future and not just this season, something more easily done by going with the 24-year-old Croyle instead of the 34-year-old Huard.


    Itís also obvious from the training camp practices that the Chiefs have more offensive capability with Croyle, who has superior passing skills. The Chiefs might have to live with a few more turnovers if Croyle is their quarterback.


    ďThereís definitely a great difference between the two guys,Ē guard Brian Waters said. ďDamon is as reliable as there is. You can count on him to be consistent, and you know exactly how heís going to be. Brodie is a great talent, but for all the talent he has, he has to be a more consistent player if he wants to play in this league.Ē


    Croyle welcomed the extra work, not only Thursday night but also in Mondayís practice. He and Huard had rotated in and out of the starting lineup in practice.
    ďItís hard to go out there knowing youíve got three or four series, because you feel like every play youíve got to make something happen,Ē Croyle said. ďIíd love playing into the third quarter. You can get yourself into a pretty good rhythm.


    ďAt this point Iím just as comfortable throwing to the second- and third-team guys as I am the first-team guys. The more you get to go with a certain group, the more comfortable youíre going to be, the more certain you are about where guys are going to be on certain routes.Ē
    THAT quarterback is NOT a Pro Bowl quarterback. Never was and never will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swmochiefsfan View Post
    6-8 picks aint bad, our O line is what really makes me nervous.
    Same here; I'm hoping they surprise me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada's #1 Chiefs Fan View Post
    First of all...the guys had two picks in preseason and at the rate you are talking that is only 6-8 picks on the season. I don't think that is enough to write off the year.
    Just to clarify:

    He had 2 picks in 2 games. That extrapolates to 16 picks (assuming we don't make the playoffs & 16 picks will help that come true).

    *BUT* 16 picks is saying he will throw one per game. In preseason he averaged not only one per game, but I think one per every other POSSESSION. Let's say 10 possessions a game (and if he throws a pick on a fourth of his drives on the first play, that might be safe). Extrapolation gives us 10 possessions per game times 1 interception per 2 possessions which equals 5 interceptions per game. Multiple it by 16 games per season (again a safe bet), and you get 80 interceptions in 2007.

    I don't think he'll do that bad (or if he does, no one will be there to see the last 50 or so), so let's split the difference and say somewhere between 6 & 80.

    If you do stupid stuff in preseason, I don't know why you wouldn't do stupid stuff in regular season. That's why some guys get cut....

    NOW: I think he will get better. Nature says he has to (he must change to survive). From his touchdown drive last game, he has great skills and can be a big winner. I have no doubt in years to come, he will be a very capable QB in the red & gold and I will be very happy to have him.

    The question is how long does it take him to lose the desire to throw stupid passes. This is the learning curve we will all suffer through.

    (Huard had skills and no learning curve --> just thought I would throw that in....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by stlchief View Post
    Just to clarify:

    He had 2 picks in 2 games. That extrapolates to 16 picks (assuming we don't make the playoffs & 16 picks will help that come true).

    *BUT* 16 picks is saying he will throw one per game. In preseason he averaged not only one per game, but I think one per every other POSSESSION. Let's say 10 possessions a game (and if he throws a pick on a fourth of his drives on the first play, that might be safe). Extrapolation gives us 10 possessions per game times 1 interception per 2 possessions which equals 5 interceptions per game. Multiple it by 16 games per season (again a safe bet), and you get 80 interceptions in 2007.

    I don't think he'll do that bad (or if he does, no one will be there to see the last 50 or so), so let's split the difference and say somewhere between 6 & 80.

    If you do stupid stuff in preseason, I don't know why you wouldn't do stupid stuff in regular season. That's why some guys get cut....

    NOW: I think he will get better. Nature says he has to (he must change to survive). From his touchdown drive last game, he has great skills and can be a big winner. I have no doubt in years to come, he will be a very capable QB in the red & gold and I will be very happy to have him.

    The question is how long does it take him to lose the desire to throw stupid passes. This is the learning curve we will all suffer through.

    (Huard had skills and no learning curve --> just thought I would throw that in....)
    You are the one who said 1 or 2 stupid interceptions every 3-4 games. Do the math, be realistic. I was just saying at that pace we still are not that bad. The losing Super Bowl QB last year threw 25 picks (preseason included) not to mention all his fumbles, and they still made it to the bowl. All I have been saying the whoooooole time is that huard is not the great qb that is going to solve the offensive problems for the Chiefs.
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    ...there...I have hired a post whore and I am going to bed now!! Goodnite and god speed!!
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    [quote=Canada's #1 Chiefs Fan;17854]You are the one who said 1 or 2 stupid interceptions every 3-4 games. Do the math, be realistic. I was just saying at that pace we still are not that bad. The losing Super Bowl QB last year threw 25 picks (preseason included) not to mention all his fumbles, and they still made it to the bowl. All I have been saying the whoooooole time is that huard is not the great qb that is going to solve the offensive problems for the Chiefs.[/quote]

    Agreed. You have convinced me. I now think we should start Croyle. This is why all of my Arrowhead cash is on him. (and because of Huard's injury....)

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    [quote=stlchief;17865]
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada's #1 Chiefs Fan View Post
    You are the one who said 1 or 2 stupid interceptions every 3-4 games. Do the math, be realistic. I was just saying at that pace we still are not that bad. The losing Super Bowl QB last year threw 25 picks (preseason included) not to mention all his fumbles, and they still made it to the bowl. All I have been saying the whoooooole time is that huard is not the great qb that is going to solve the offensive problems for the Chiefs.[/quote]

    Agreed. You have convinced me. I now think we should start Croyle. This is why all of my Arrowhead cash is on him. (and because of Huard's injury....)

    I bet most of mine early...on Huard!!
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    Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl! Rofl!
    Rofl!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada's #1 Chiefs Fan View Post
    You are the one who said 1 or 2 stupid interceptions every 3-4 games. Do the math, be realistic. I was just saying at that pace we still are not that bad. The losing Super Bowl QB last year threw 25 picks (preseason included) not to mention all his fumbles, and they still made it to the bowl. All I have been saying the whoooooole time is that huard is not the great qb that is going to solve the offensive problems for the Chiefs.
    He is the only guy who has shown that he can be that guy. What has you so convinced that he isn't capable?

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    [quote=Canada's #1 Chiefs Fan;17866]
    Quote Originally Posted by stlchief View Post

    I bet most of mine early...on Huard!!

    I just bet 1000 on each DOH!


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