Hailey and pioli deserve no time??????????

[matthewschiefs]

Ok far to many people are jumping on Todd Hailey and Scott Pioli for the current chiefs problems. ITS BEEN 5 games. Its far to early to say that they have the team that they truely want in KC. Did i miss the part were the chiefs could go to everyteam say what players they want and could just take no. No becuse that never happend. One offseason is not enough time to truely build a team. I am sorry thats just what i think. This team was not going to magicly be a superbowl contender due to Herm and Carl leaveing. Its going to take at least this season and the next offseason for the big improvemnet. This is a young team that needs to learn how to win. That takes time.

Herm Edwards was given 3 freaking years to build a team and win games. HE FAILED! That is not Pioli or haileys fault. Belive me I would love if herm turned out to be the best coach the chiefs have ever had. That would mean the Chiefs would not be in the current spot they are in. IMO its still far to early to judge the new managment. I am not saying that they should be given 3 years If there is not a big improvement after next season then its time for one or the other to be let go. And i will say that then. But for now i am still hopeful that this is the start of a good managment group in KC. The two deserve time to be given a chance. I for one am willing to give that to them. Talk to me after next season then you can realy judge.

[ScottieChiefs]

Give them time. We don't want to be like the Raiders. Besides, people seem to forget that the Chiefs had a tough slate to start the season. Ravens, Eagles, and Giants are all tough, Cowboys somewhat. Granted this isn't a good team, but they should be able to pull in some wins later this year.

[Canada]

Give them time. We don't want to be like the Raiders. Besides, people seem to forget that the Chiefs had a tough slate to start the season. Ravens, Eagles, and Giants are all tough, Cowboys somewhat. Granted this isn't a good team, but they should be able to pull in some wins later this year.

Are you Scott Pioli?

[chief31]

TC great article.

Ok far to many people are jumping on Todd Hailey and Scott Pioli for the current chiefs problems. ITS BEEN 5 games. Its far to early to say that they have the team that they truely want in KC. Did i miss the part were the chiefs could go to everyteam say what players they want and could just take no. No becuse that never happend. One offseason is not enough time to truely build a team. I am sorry thats just what i think. This team was not going to magicly be a superbowl contender due to Herm and Carl leaveing. Its going to take at least this season and the next offseason for the big improvemnet. This is a young team that needs to learn how to win. That takes time.

Herm Edwards was given 3 freaking years to build a team and win games. HE FAILED! That is not Pioli or haileys fault. Belive me I would love if herm turned out to be the best coach the chiefs have ever had. That would mean the Chiefs would not be in the current spot they are in. IMO its still far to early to judge the new managment. I am not saying that they should be given 3 years If there is not a big improvement after next season then its time for one or the other to be let go. And i will say that then. But for now i am still hopeful that this is the start of a good managment group in KC. The two deserve time to be given a chance. I for one am willing to give that to them. Talk to me after next season then you can realy judge.

It isn't too early to start criticism. The day Haley came in wasn't too early.

With every move he makes, comes another opportunity to form an opinion.

Too early to make a final judgement? Sure it is. If it isn't final, then it's too early for final judgement.

I try to make a point of stating that I have hope for haley yet, in any post that I express negative criticism, as I know people can exaggerate what they read.

But I haven't seen may moves that I have liked, from Pioli, nor Haley, to this point.

As TC stated, I give Haley a much longer leash, and for the reasons that TC stated.

But Haley, whom I already distrusted, immediately shortened my tolerance, with his insult of all his players. And has seemed to continue to make poor decisions.

And I don't grant either of them much slack, based on the team that they inherited.

It was a young, talented bunch of players that were severely misused, and unarmed for the battles that they were sent into. (poor coaching)

But, instead of identifying the youth and talent that was here, they have scrapped as much of it as they could try to justify, for lesser players.

When 'Player A' makes a terrible play, you don't fire him. But you do make a note of it.

If he continues to make terrible plays, then you become increasingly critical. And you eventually get tired of it, and call the player a bust.

Same goes with coaches and GMs. So far, Pioli has screwed up one offseason, imo. We'll see how he does next year.

Todd Haley has been making a chain of poor decisions, imo. He needs to start making more good decisions. Bottom line.