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    I am more than excited for this years draft for the Chiefs. I know we need OL help but luckily for us this years draft has a lot of prospected OL to go in the 2nd-3rd round. It would be hard for me to see an OL drafted in the first round and pass up Berry and Mays.

    Berry and Mays are two once in a decade type safeties with comparisons to Reed, Polamalu, Dawkins...and you see what they did for their defenses. I think either one of them (prefer Berry) would give us that playmaker on defense to build around for the next 10 years. Especially while we get the personnel to fill our 3-4.

    I'm also loving Jerry Hughes to give us that 3-4 linebacker. He plays a lot like James Harrison, compact build with an insane bull rush. There are probably 4 more 3-4 outside linebackers that could really put of defense over the top. (IF we have one of those elite safeties of course)

    AND this years Wide Receiving group is one of the deepest we will ever see. We should without a doubt be able to grab one of them in the draft that will give us a solid #2 to compliment Bowe and keep Wade as our slot along with Bradley. Golden Tate is who I would like to see in red.

    OL...we have to use one of our 2nd round picks on one. No question. And it's really nice that we have 2 second rounders.

    What do you guys think, I really believe we need that playmaker on defense and I hesitate to take another Dlineman even though there are some monster DT's that could anchor our 3-4.

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    First 4 picks, O-line.
    Chiefs in 2011

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    Todd quit coming on here trying to drum up support, just draft the damn o-line. Sheesh.




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    I want and offensive line 4 games ago NOW!

    Since we talking about Safteys, I like that guy from Texas, don't ask his name cause I don't know. We could pick him up in the second round with the pick from the ATL TG trade.
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    If we load up on offensive line this offseason where does that get us. We could get 5 pro bowl players on offensive line and still lack in so many areas. That would just be a quick fix to one problem on the team. We don't have Priest Holmes, Tony G who were absolute offensive monsters. We have Bowe and Cassel (whom I think will be a lot like Trent Green, not a bad thing). We don't have a legit #1 running back, even in a backfield by committee. Our Linebackers are sub-par for a 3-4 system. We have 0 pass rushers to be honest. (Unless Haley gets over his grudge against D. Johnson) Tyson Jackson was brought in to anchor the Defensive End spot in the run game, not projected a high amount of sacks over his career. A 4-6 sack year for him will be what he was drafted for. We NEED some pass rushers at our linebacker spots. Tambi Hali is going to fit well as a run stopper, but he's no ball hawk or end rusher. I'm really hoping we copy the Steelers defense while we can in this draft. Stud Safety (Berry) pass rushing linebacker (Hughes). And immediately we have a defense that can impact every game.

    Oline, we draft one with our 2nd round picks and use one of our later picks on another.

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    Ok, so why are we losing now? We are keeping the opposing teams score low, but then we can't score any points ourselves.

    Just another way we are getting screwed.
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    We're losing now basically just because we just entered a new era this offseason. Switching to a 3-4 with 3 other teams in the offseason didn't make things easy on us either. Offensively, our oline sucks, nobody can argue that, BUT outside of Bowe, Wade, and Cassel we really don't have weapons to utilize. LJ just doesn't seem like the same runner he used to be, and Jamal Charles, love the kid, but he can't hang onto the ball, if he gets that under control he will be our home run threat since he is a speedster and can catch. And to be honest, I think we will se more moves on defense than offense for a while, just because certain players don't fit the 3-4 mold. And why we have been losing, it seems that 1 big play. Which is due to no pass rush, we can't expect our secondary to not give up big plays when the opposing qb can do whatever he wants. Dorsey and Jackson are getting in the backfield more than anyone else, which is a good thing for them...but not for the team. They show promise to be the BIG 3-4 Dends that we need for the system. 3-4 really only starts working when we get those outside linebackers leading the team in sacks. I.E. Ware, Merriman, Harrison, Porter, Suggs. Our Dline is going to be in place for yeras to come, (not sure about DT with losing Tank though, possible indications that Pioli wants one of those 2 big DT's in this years draft)

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    If we have 5 pro bowl o line men = almost all problems solved. LJ has still got it, Cassel will be more composed, WR are fine, defense is fine, Special teams is great except punt returner. Charles is doing fine returning kicks and thats where I always wanted him cept the fumble.

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    Our Defense was 29th overall entering Sundays game... I really don't consider that to be fine by any means. LJ is not the same runner, WR, we have 2 that will fit the teams needs. Wade and Bowe. Bradley is a home run type WR with his speed but isn't a #2 by any standard...and has a history of injuries. We need to get that #2. Special Teams, I would love to see a great return man but it's not a pressing need.

    5 pro bowl oline men= A #10-15 ranked offense with a bottom 10 defense. No thanks

    Again I'm not ignoring Oline at all, but it woudln't make us a playoff team.

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    I somewhat disagree with you Subversion. I think with a little improvement in OL, we could turn the team around. A really good OL can make an average RB look great, and a good RB (like I think LJ is) look amazing. A good OL makes a QB look like a genious when he can sit back and pick apart a defense.

    On the other hand, I do agree that we are missing that dominating OLB pass rusher that seems to be the foundation of a 3-4 defense. So many holes, it is hard to know where to start.

    In all honesty, we can only hope to get 4 starters out of the draft if we are really lucky. It is rare for anyone after the 3rd round to make much of an impact, let alone become a starter.

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