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texaschief
First off, let me say this "Haley took over Herm's team" crap is INCREDIBLY stupid considering the BEST players on this team are guys Herm brought in. Name ONE player who Pioli/Haley brought in who are playing at a level even COMPARABLE to Glenn Dorsey, Tamba Hali, Jamaal Charles, or even... yes I'm gonna say it... Bernard Pollard. Because I guarantee you that TJ can't compare to Dorsey, Vrabel can't touch Tamba, Brown was an EPIC fail considering the RELEASE of Pollard, and the RB we drafted this year hasn't even been able to stay on the active roster for any extended period of time. Matt Cassel isn't performing ANY better than the other two QBs who were already here, would have. Belcher isn't better than DJ. EVERY move on the O-line has been a lateral move AT BEST.
Second, Dick Vermeil decided to retire because the team had peaked and he knew it. Vermeil wouldn't have done any better the years following his retirement with the group he left than Edwards did. Edwards wanted to "rebuild" from the first year he was here but wasn't given the "ok" until last season. Imagine what this team would've looked like had CP allowed the rebuild to begin after Vermeil left. We would've traded LJ (like we should have... which is something I was SCREAMING for before they gave him the new contract. Feel free to go thru the archives... it's there.) We could have traded TG for a package comparable to the JA deal, which is A LOT more than what we got this year and would've gone a LONG way to making us competitive sooner. There were plenty of aging pieces that we could've traded for draft picks, but didn't. Then, CP allows hall of fame O-linemen to retire before drafting replacements... UNFORGIVABLE! Perhaps if those things had happened, we'd still have Jared Allen because we wouldn't have needed draft picks so desperately. But since they waited so long to commit to the rebuild, they had to trade the only piece that could bring a large bounty. So, there goes our pass rush. Finally, because we had no more valuable pieces, Pioli had to trade away our only piece left in Tony Gonzalez... a guy who should've played his entire career here.
Herm Edwards made a couple gaffs as a head coach, but they pale in comparison to the gaffs Haley is making. The first two years of Edward's tenure here were the last years of Vermeil's "glory" years that CP was desperately trying to hold on to. While a 2-14 year was a strong possibility during a "transition" or "rebuilding" year and probably wouldn't have been avoided, the three years prior to that, COULD have been. 2009 is 2008 all over again, except with better talent held over than that of 2007 and 2006. 2009 SHOULD have been year 2 of the rebuild, but as soon as Pioli fired Edwards, it became year 1 part II.
Now, with so many people disliking Haley for one reason or another, we're now becoming what I was afraid we'd become all along. I was a staunch Edwards supporter because I knew that once we started turning over coaches every 3 or 4 years, we'd never get out of that trend. After just one season, at least half the Chiefs fan base is calling for Haley's head. Personally, I don't care if Haley is fired as long as Pioli is left in charge as the GM and keeps going forward with the 3-4 base defense and at least some basic form of an offense in mind that he can build toward.
Edwards fought tooth and nail for a rebuild and when he finally got it, it was ripped from him and started all over again by someone who didn't know the personnel he had. I think it was a failure on Pioli's part to fire everyone who had anything to do with this team prior to his arrival and it has led to some of the worst decisions that could've been made for this team going forward. I want to have faith that he can right the ship, but if he has another HUGE failure in the draft like he had this past year and keeps sitting on the most available cash, it's going to be EXTREMELY hard to keep supporting this guy.
i wish some fans would have more patience
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