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    Default I am going to make a bold prediction.

    You can call me crazy or what ever...


    But I think Berry will fall to the second round.
    Here is why.

    1. Rams - They need more things than just a QB.

    2. Lions - Stronger need than safteies at hand, like OL and DL

    3. Bucs - They need a DL or OL.

    4. Redskins - Need help at OL so they can have a successful offense.

    5. Chiefs - Scott has rules when drafting.

    6. Seahawks - Matt Hasselbeck is always on the run. There looking at an OL, and if they were going to draft a saftey, it would be Taylor Mays; due to the connection with Pete Carrol.

    7. Browns - They are looking at QB issues first.

    8. Raiders - Al Davis doesn't understand the draft. Nuff said.

    9. Bills - QB? They have a decent secondary.

    10. Jaguars - My guess is they would pick a corner, not a saftey.

    11. Donks - MCDainels is an offensive kind of guy. I bet they boot Marshall and draft a WR.

    12. Dolphins - Lost Joey Porter, looking for replacement.

    13. 49ner's - Probably going to be a front 7 kind of guy.

    14. Seahawks - same really

    15. NYG - Not really sure what they need. But they might look toward LB or DT.

    16. Titans - Vince needs some help at WR, and they could use a DT as well.

    Ok, so I could go on with this, but you get my drift. Most other teams need a saftey that bad. We don't even need one THAT bad. Not that we don't need one.

    Point is I think Berry is going to fall to the second round.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    Im my opinion, it would be nice to have an elite safety, but not necessary at the stage of rebuilding that we are. We have too many other holes to fill.

    A safety's primary goal is to defend the pass. Our biggest problem was run defense. We sucked in pass defense too, dont get me wrong. But part of our problem was that we were always playing the run, and we left ourselves vulnerable to the pass.

    A safety isnt going to help in run defense and isnt going to improve our run defense a whole lot and make our DL/LBs look any better. However, a good DL/LB IS going to make our secondary look better. They will be able to stop the run without blitzing and bringing the safeties any closer to the line of scrimmage. They can put pressure on the opposing QB, only giving him a couple seconds to throw, making him less accurate and making it easier for the CBs and Safeties to get picks.

    All that having been said, do I think there is a DL or LB worthy of taking in the top 5? I dont think so. I think we would have to reach on Dan Williams if we wanted to go defense. As a doctor, McClain's history of Crohns makes me really hesitant to consider him.

    I think Okung and maybe Bulaga are worthy of the pick, but I am not sure he is going to be a big upgrade over B. Albert.

    At this point my number one choice would be if we traded down. After that, I dont have a strong preference.
    That's why i'm saying we could draft a LB in the 2nd round and berry in the 1st round. Not all great players are 1st rounders. (that being said Eric Berry IS a great 1st round player )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike View Post
    And Curry was a great linebacker at Wake Forest. But Pioli don't think that way. He will build our lines with our top 2-3 picks...
    Better not be the D line. Past two seasons it's been Dorsey and Jackson, both DEs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike View Post
    No doubt we need a safety - probably two of them. But successful teams are built with strong lines. The best safties in the world don't mean squat unless the players in front of them are capable of stuffing the run and getting to the QB. Our D was ranked 30 out of 32 teams last year. Not real impressive. The front 7 MUST be fixed if we are to be competitive in the long term. And don't forget we need at least 2 starting OL - probably 3. Get the lines fixed first. Anything else is considered a luxury pick in our situation (imho).
    BUT...Pioli has brought in very good coaches as DC & OC. Pioli may believe we have more talent on the Chiefs DL & OL already than has met the eye, of which will be revealed with the right coaches. His thoughts could be the lack of an OC, the wrong DC...were more the problem than the players with our DL & OL.

    Pioli is also aware of many unusual team circumstances last season with no HC, Haley's first year, playbook thrown out, Cassell more or less winging it, LJ's childish episode, Bowe's suspension...much pressure on everyone above the norm on a team.

    All negative factor's considered last season...it's impossible to judge the OL & DL by season stats alone.

    As well, Pioli may be looking at DL & OL players he feels are hidden talent that he could take in the later rounds, 'IF' & that's a big if of course...Pioli decides to snatch Berry in the first. Are there any safeties of Berry's caliber in the later rounds?...nope!

    Let's look at another very real fact...Berry appears to be the popular draft choice by the majority of Chiefs fans, and he's been defined as a player that could bring much excitement to the game. Ticket & licensed merchandise profits are at the worse level in what...2 decades for the Chiefs?

    Pioli is a GM...it's his job to make the Hunts money first & foremost, which is done by winning games resulting in fan financial support. Berry would not only fill a position on the Chiefs team we legitimately need to fill, but he also has the potential to be a quick fix with bringing the fans back to Arrowhead in 2010...based upon his being the popular draft choice of fans, and with fans anticipating his potential to bring excitement to the game.

    Pioli kills two birds with one stone if drafting Berry...if not more birds, hahahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Connie Jo View Post
    Well, my thought originated from remembering the year the Chargers drafted Eli Manning, traded him to the Giants in the blink of an eye more or less.

    I was just wondering if the same was possible with Berry. I understand fully that Berry is not of the value Eli Manning was of course, still...just sayin.
    Eli refused to play for the Bolts, so they swapped. They definately didnt take him to trade him, but he just refused to sign with them and basically told them that.

    If you think way back Bo Jackson did the same thing in tampa, and ended up not playing for anyone that year, the next year, the raiders drafted him in like the 7th round :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan View Post
    Better not be the D line. Past two seasons it's been Dorsey and Jackson, both DEs
    It BETTER BE our DL. 30th ranked defense last year - 30th! If you want a consistant playoff team, line MUST be fixed. If it takes 3 more drafts to fix it - so be it. Doesn't matter what we drafted last year if the problem still isn't fixed!!!!!Need a NT first and foremost. Then an OLB and then an ILB (or 2). After the front 7 is fixed, Pioli will target safeties and CB's. Just the way it is...
    SHUT IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike View Post
    It BETTER BE our DL. 30th ranked defense last year - 30th! If you want a consistant playoff team, line MUST be fixed. If it takes 3 more drafts to fix it - so be it. Doesn't matter what we drafted last year if the problem still isn't fixed!!!!!Need a NT first and foremost. Then an OLB and then an ILB (or 2). After the front 7 is fixed, Pioli will target safeties and CB's. Just the way it is...
    If they Do go and draft a NT/DT at #5 then all three starting D linemen will be top 5 picks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan View Post
    If they Do go and draft a NT/DT at #5 then all three starting D linemen will be top 5 picks!
    Whatever it takes. 30TH RANKED DEFENSE LAST SEASON.
    SHUT IT

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    Quote Originally Posted by hometeam View Post
    Eli refused to play for the Bolts, so they swapped. They definately didnt take him to trade him, but he just refused to sign with them and basically told them that.

    If you think way back Bo Jackson did the same thing in tampa, and ended up not playing for anyone that year, the next year, the raiders drafted him in like the 7th round :P
    Yeah, I remember Eli refused to sign with the Chargers, however...I also remember that the 'Manning Family' as the media reported...made public statements prior to the draft and San Diego drafting Manning. The 'Manning Family' stated that if SD drafted Eli as speculation in the media predicted they would do...that Eli would absolutely not sign with SD.

    San Diego knowing this...drafted him anyway...so they had to be anticipating the very real possibility of trading him after picking him in the first round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike View Post
    Whatever it takes. 30TH RANKED DEFENSE LAST SEASON.
    OK, maybe Berry at #5 and a NT in the 2nd. Sorry but I'm sticking with Berry

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan View Post
    OK, maybe Berry at #5 and a NT in the 2nd. Sorry but I'm sticking with Berry
    Stick all you want. It won't happen.
    SHUT IT

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