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    I noticed a problem with the Chiefs' pass-protection. At first I was thinking that Kyle Turley was the problem, because the pressure was coming from his end of the line. Upon further study, on several plays, I noticed that John Welborne was not getting into any kind of position to "take over" the defensive end, from Turley, on stunts on that side of the line. Nor was he adjusting to the outside of Turley, to pick-up the defensive tackle, who was going to the outside on the stunt. This was leaving Turley with a choice. Leave the defensive end to easily beat an out-of-position Welbourne, or allow the defensive tackle to come-clean, on the outside.

    Turley did the best that he could, by holding his ground against the defensive end, then trying to let him go, when the tackle had gotten to apoint of being the more immediate threat. It didn't work, because he was essentially being left with the responsibility of trying to block both guys. All he could do is block the more immediate threat, (the defensive end) until the tackle got close enough to become the more immediate threat. By that time, both players would have been too close to choose between and it would have been too late.

    I applaud Turleys effort and hope that the Chiefs have noticed the exposure of Welbournes weakness. If it doesn't get fixed, then Turley will continue to look bad, by trying to cover for the failures of Welbourne. The Texans certainly noticed the problem, as they ran that stunt several times, in the Chiefs last couple of possessions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rbedgood View Post
    This reminds me of my dad's favorite quote (he coached most of my teams growing up)...if anyone was standing around watching (didn't matter what sport...baseball, football, soccer, etc.) he'd ask if we wanted a hotdog and a soda, there's an open seat next to mom in the stands...
    Welbourne, on that play, reminded me of a Barry Sanders highlight I've seen quite a few times. He makes a cut and slashes right up the middle of the defense and runs right behind this huge defensive tackle for the Cowgirls. The guy barely has time to turn his head to keep Barry in his vision as Sanders runs right behind him. No reaction from the big guy at all. Absolutely hilarious and priceless as well. Look up most any Barry Sanders highlight video on youtube and you will see it.
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    Svike(or whatever) didnt do to bad. he did have a false start but his blocking sure looked better. wonder what got into his head.
    i can remember what a chief super bowl team looks like! ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by m0ef0e View Post
    I was looking for it some this week and noticed it too. There was one play in particular I remember that I saw Welbourne just standing there while Turley engaged the end and the d-tack just came on around the outside on a stunt. Welbourne was still on the inside of Turley and stood there while Damon got hit. I didn't even see him begin to move. Seemed like not only a mistake, but poor effort as well.

    EDIT: It may have been a linebacker, I can't remember. But I know that Welbourne was standing there looking at Damon get hit, already turned around for a few seconds, like he stood up when the ball was snapped and didn't see anybody to block so he just turned around and stood there to watch Damon throw the ball.
    Welbourne, it appears to me, is not "dropping" into his pass-protection as he should be. (At leats on the several stunts that I have noticed.) If he were dropping back, he would be deep enough for Turley to "hand-off" the inside-rushing DE to him and slide to the outside to pick up the free DT. Again, I hope the coaching staff recognizes the problem and can do something about it.

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    He should just cover his guy and let Welborne look bad all on his own.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    He should just cover his guy and let Welborne look bad all on his own.
    Unfortunately, that would be bad for the team. It would also be bad for Huard/Croyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    Unfortunately, that would be bad for the team. It would also be bad for Huard/Croyle.
    Exactly...by covering his teammate to the inside he gives the QB the best chance to escape/make a play, thus reducing the odds of getting hurt
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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    Unfortunately, that would be bad for the team. It would also be bad for Huard/Croyle.
    Quote Originally Posted by rbedgood View Post
    Exactly...by covering his teammate to the inside he gives the QB the best chance to escape/make a play, thus reducing the odds of getting hurt

    Agreed; but will Herm see it that way?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    Agreed; but will Herm see it that way?
    Oxymoron?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbedgood View Post
    Oxymoron?!

    Hey that's a dis man; you can't do that! I ain't no ox moron!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post

    Hey that's a dis man; you can't do that! I ain't no ox moron!

    No you're not, but that might be the best description of the Herminator yet..."Ox moron".
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