The Tampa Bay Game is as good

**figcrostic** · 08-23-2010, 03:45 PM

As Cassel will get. He honestly looked like a average NFL quaterback, but that's actually a compliment because it's a hard job. He threw some easy completions that looked nice and fluid, he didn't throw any interceptions, and while he didn't throw any deep balls he didn't need to. Matt Cassel is a C level quaterback and theres nothing wrong with that if you have an A plus line which we don't have but it's getting better. Everyone thinks I hate Matt Cassel. I don't I hate Matt he seems like a nice guy, but I do hate that we picked up him up in the situation we did. But I will give the man his dues he looked like an NFL QB against Tampa maybe. Tampa isn't that good but they are still beat 3 teams last year. I think the Matt Cassel we saw on saturday is the best he can get. Can we win with Matt? Yes. Can Matt win games for us? Most likely no. If we keep Matt which I think we will I hope we work on our line, because it was pretty sad. And can I get a

for Jamaal, Mccluster, and Arenas as a returner, DB not so much.

**figcrostic** · 08-23-2010, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ryfo18

Duh...he's obviously going to tie games if he's not going to win or lose them. Did you forget there are ties in football?

Don't act stupid just because you don't agree with me. QB's like Peyton Manning, Montana, The always hated John Elway carry their team I don't ever see Matt doing that he's best at not taking big risk, and throwing the ball away when there are no gimmes. Our RB's are going to win the games for us.

**figcrostic** · 08-23-2010, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Drunker Hillbilly

The best he can get huh? Was he better or worse with N.E.?

The same he just played on a team that went 18-1 the year before.

**stricken721** · 08-23-2010, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by figcrostic

Be a time manager ala Damon Huard with slightly less accuracy

That's ok. But Damon Huard lost us and won us games, but you said that Cassel won't win us games, and he won't lose us games, so what will he do?

**Pro_Angler** · 08-23-2010, 07:08 PM

As much as I hate to say it..CAssel wont lose us games as much as our Oline will with protection. We will never know what he can do unless he has time to make any kinds of descisions. I can still see this year that even when he has time he thinks he doesnt and makes bad desicions. Ive seen him take off like hes beeing chased several times and he wasnt. He is very skittish.

**figcrostic** · 08-23-2010, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by stricken721

That's ok. But Damon Huard lost us and won us games, but you said that Cassel won't win us games, and he won't lose us games, so what will he do?

I love people act stupid when they don't agree with you. Tom Brady won his first superbowl with a not very good team. Can Matt win a game by throwing a TD? Yes but what I'm saying is, You could take Matt and replace with an average NFL QB and they would do the exact same thing. You put about anyone on the 2001 Patriots and they are not even getting to the playoffs. Therefore he won games for the team. He made that team winners.

**figcrostic** · 08-23-2010, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Pro_Angler

As much as I hate to say it..CAssel wont lose us games as much as our Oline will with protection. We will never know what he can do unless he has time to make any kinds of descisions. I can still see this year that even when he has time he thinks he doesnt and makes bad desicions. Ive seen him take off like hes beeing chased several times and he wasnt. He is very skittish.

That's what I'm worried about our line looked horrible saturday, but I'm glad he got the ball out quicker then he usually does. Our defense did look better but let's see them against strong offense before I make a decision.

**Ryfo18** · 08-23-2010, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Pro_Angler

we should have gotten bowldin atleast make an attempt. I still havent seen much from DBowe. maybe he will be highlighted at the home opener.

We did make an attempt to get Boldin.

**stricken721** · 08-23-2010, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by figcrostic

I love people act stupid when they don't agree with you. Tom Brady won his first superbowl with a not very good team. Can Matt win a game by throwing a TD? Yes but what I'm saying is, You could take Matt and replace with an average NFL QB and they would do the exact same thing. You put about anyone on the 2001 Patriots and they are not even getting to the playoffs. Therefore he won games for the team. He made that team winners.

Nobody is acting stupid, or being stupid so you don't need to resort to name calling. I was simply asking you a question based on what you said, you didn't answer it, so I asked again.

**Ryfo18** · 08-23-2010, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by figcrostic

Don't act stupid just because you don't agree with me. QB's like Peyton Manning, Montana, The always hated John Elway carry their team I don't ever see Matt doing that he's best at not taking big risk, and throwing the ball away when there are no gimmes. Our RB's are going to win the games for us.

Fine you win. You're absolutely right. Our defense, special teams and passing offense will have nothing to do with winning.

**Drunker Hillbilly** · 08-23-2010, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by figcrostic

The same he just played on a team that went 18-1 the year before.

Really? Played the same with N.E. as he played here last year huh? WOW!!!! The point is that if the players around him play better, he is capable of playing MUCH better than he has for us.