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    Default Another Flawless game for Cassel

    Might as well get rid of him next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Tyler View Post
    He played well yesterday, I don't have much to complain about. If the Chiefs could maintain a 200/160 passing/rushing balance every game I'd be a happy camper. Still, I'm a doubter until I see results I guess. I'll get behind him fully when we're a playoff/Superbowl contender. Right now we've only beaten the teams we're supposed to beat and we can't do it on the road.
    We were 10-38 entering this season.

    I don't think that we were "supposed to beat" anyone.


    Quote Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan View Post
    I hate to say it but football is a game of results. And there is only one result that counts. Superbowl.

    Been a LONG time since we went to the big one and whupped up on Minnesota.

    Stats don't matter. W/L record don't matter.

    In the end, all that matters is "did you get your team to the Superbowl and did you win it?"

    Until then no quarterback is ever "great".

    Not fair perhaps, but its reality.
    That's not reality. It's nonsense.

    Barry Sanders was the greatest runner of all time, despite not having even appeared in a Super Bowl.

    The Ricky-Bobby notion that "if you're not first, you're last" was a joke.

    Why be a Chiefs fan if The Super Bowl is the only thing that matters?

    By your own standards, this team doesn't matter.


    As for the "elite QBs" remark....

    '09 Saints 4th
    '08 Steelers 17th
    '07 Giants 25th
    '06 Colts 2nd
    '05 Steelers 25th
    '04 Patriots 11th
    '03 Patriots 9th
    '02 Bucs 15th
    '01 Patriots 22nd
    '00 Ravens 22nd
    '99 Rams 1st
    '98 Broncos 7th
    '97 Broncos 9th
    '96 Packers 5th
    '95 Cowboys 13th
    '94 49ers 4th
    '93 Cowboys 12th
    '92 Cowboys 5th

    There are your 18 Super Bowl winners, and the Passing offense ranking for each, in the year that they won (Regular season)

    If top-five would be considered 'elite', then that gives us 6 elite QBs. one third of 18.)

    If top ten would be 'elite', then you have 9 elite QBs. (nine would be half of 18.)

    Go more recent, say the last decade, and only three passing games ranked in the top ten.

    But I am sure that total passing yards would not be the appropriate stat to define an elite QB for you.

    It seems that winning Super Bowls is what makes an elite QB? And you seem to be suggesting that we can't win a Super Bowl because we don't have a QB who has won a Super Bowl?

    Ya know, at some point in each of those Super Bowl winning QBs careers, they were not considered elite QBs.

    They turned into elite QBs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wilqb16 View Post
    I don't think anyone remembers Green as "average at best".

    Also, going by your critera, then Dan Marino, Dan Fouts and Warren Moon are average at best, too.

    Most people recognize that football is the ultimate team sport. One guy - even the QB - can't win a game all by himself. Need to be a great team on some level.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Angler View Post
    I would concider marino elite even though no superbowl..
    I hadn't read this far when I replied to ctchiefsfan above, haha. It appears we think alike, as some of these came to mind for me as well as others. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    We were 10-38 entering this season.

    I don't think that we were "supposed to beat" anyone.



    That's not reality. It's nonsense.

    Barry Sanders was the greatest runner of all time, despite not having even appeared in a Super Bowl.

    The Ricky-Bobby notion that "if you're not first, you're last" was a joke.

    Why be a Chiefs fan if The Super Bowl is the only thing that matters?

    By your own standards, this team doesn't matter.

    As for the "elite QBs" remark....

    '09 Saints 4th
    '08 Steelers 17th
    '07 Giants 25th
    '06 Colts 2nd
    '05 Steelers 25th
    '04 Patriots 11th
    '03 Patriots 9th
    '02 Bucs 15th
    '01 Patriots 22nd
    '00 Ravens 22nd
    '99 Rams 1st
    '98 Broncos 7th
    '97 Broncos 9th
    '96 Packers 5th
    '95 Cowboys 13th
    '94 49ers 4th
    '93 Cowboys 12th
    '92 Cowboys 5th

    There are your 18 Super Bowl winners, and the Passing offense ranking for each, in the year that they won (Regular season)

    If top-five would be considered 'elite', then that gives us 6 elite QBs. one third of 18.)

    If top ten would be 'elite', then you have 9 elite QBs. (nine would be half of 18.)

    Go more recent, say the last decade, and only three passing games ranked in the top ten.

    But I am sure that total passing yards would not be the appropriate stat to define an elite QB for you.

    It seems that winning Super Bowls is what makes an elite QB? And you seem to be suggesting that we can't win a Super Bowl because we don't have a QB who has won a Super Bowl?

    Ya know, at some point in each of those Super Bowl winning QBs careers, they were not considered elite QBs.

    They turned into elite QBs.

    REP!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan View Post
    I hate to say it but football is a game of results. And there is only one result that counts. Superbowl.GO CHIEFS!!!
    I hate to say it, but you are very wrong here. That may be your opinion, but if your opinion was a majority, The Chiefs most likely would not even be in KC, as the team would have had to move for lack of attendance and support. There is more to the Chiefs than winning the superbowl.

    It has been so long since they won the big one, I was not even born, yet I still love this team.

    Please find another excuse to hate on a QB who is winning games...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seek View Post
    I hate to say it, but you are very wrong here. That may be your opinion, but if your opinion was a majority, The Chiefs most likely would not even be in KC, as the team would have had to move for lack of attendance and support. There is more to the Chiefs than winning the superbowl.

    It has been so long since they won the big one, I was not even born, yet I still love this team.

    Please find another excuse to hate on a QB who is winning games...
    Football is a game of ENTERTAINMENT. Although winning the Super Bowl is the ultimate goal, that is not the only reason we all love it!!!
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    NFL QUARTERBACKS SINCE OCTOBER 17
    Player
    Team
    G
    Att
    Cmp
    %
    Yds
    Y/A
    TD
    INT
    Rating
    Joe Flacco
    BAL
    5
    160
    109
    68.1
    1,317
    8.23
    11
    1
    113.5
    Matt Cassel
    KC
    6
    185
    115
    62.2
    1,424
    7.70
    14
    1
    108.9
    Philip Rivers
    SD
    5
    170
    115
    67.6
    1,418
    8.34
    12
    5
    104.5
    Roethlisberger
    PIT
    6
    187
    117
    62.6
    1,579
    8.44
    12
    4
    101.9
    Aaron Rodgers
    GB
    5
    166
    103
    62.0
    1,368
    8.24
    10
    3
    100.7
    Matt Ryan
    ATL
    5
    200
    129
    64.5
    1,353
    6.77
    11
    2
    98.2
    Josh Freeman
    TB
    6
    174
    108
    62.1
    1,275
    7.33
    9
    2
    96.8
    Matt Schaub
    HOU
    5
    168
    109
    64.9
    1,341
    7.98
    6
    2
    96.4
    Tom Brady
    NE
    6
    207
    130
    62.8
    1,451
    7.01
    10
    2
    95.7
    Eli Manning
    NYG
    5
    178
    119
    66.9
    1,293
    7.26
    13
    8
    93.7
    Qualification: only passers who threw 100+ passes in the last six weeks were rated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    Might as well get rid of him next year.


    Why wait? After all we got Croyle waiting in the wings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    Cassel showed up today
    Bowe showed up today
    I Don't want ANY hate for either of them this week they got the job done.
    Next week with Dexter and our TE sorry can't spell it. We are just realizing that we might have a passing attack.

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