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    Well. Now that the season is over. Lets start looking at the draft and free agency!

    What are your top needs, and who do you want us to pick. It looks like we will be picking either at either 21, 22 or 23 (3 way tie between us Indy and the loser of the GB/Philly game, usu decided by a coin toss).

    My top needs:

    1. Elite FS
    - By far the biggest weakness on our team. Berry will make a great SS. He has the skills to cover zone and man, and is great at coming up against the run. Other than him, we are horrible at safety. It may be better to get someone from free agency. Berry could use some experience to mentor him. (supposedly Champ Bailey wants out of Denver and wants to play FS to prolong his career).

    2. OG and/or OC prospect.
    -Our interior is getting old. Waters is still playing well, but is one injury away from retiring. Asamoah will likely be really good soon, but Weigmann is getting old, too. Id love to see our 3rd round pick used here.

    3. #2 WR
    - This will open up our offense immensely. Bowe is constantly double teamed. If he is one-on-one, he will get open. If they double him, then Moeaki, the #2 guy, and the run game will open up. I say draft someone in the 2nd round.

    4. OLB
    - Vrabel is getting old, isnt getting to the QB and is not the best cover man because he has lost a step. We need someone who is good in coverage, not just a rush guy. Our LBs couldnt keep up with the Ravens' TEs. This could probably be found in either the draft or in FA.

    5. NT
    - We dont have a true NT. Our DL is good, but Edwards is old and doesnt have the strength to hold up to 2x teams. We need a big beast in the middle. Not sure if there are any great NTs in the draft, or FA.

    6. Backup QB
    - I think we all agree that Brokie Croyle has lost most of his supporters. I say FA or a low round draft pick.

    What are your thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    You throw out tackles as a stat for a D-Lineman against a team that ran the ball maybe 10 times? Ha! We should criticize Peppers for not getting downfield on pass plays huh?
    This statement is totally bogus. Peppers job is to get into the opponents backfield and to rush the passer, not get downfield and make tackles, although it's an added bonus when any D-lineman does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    Okung gave up 1 hit when Peppers was lined up on the right. I think it was Idonije but I'd have to watch again. I didn't say that the Seahawks would trade Okung for Berry, of course they wouldn't. But I just thought I should point out to brdempsey, who likes to say how Albert "struggles against better pass rushers", that Okung did the same today.
    I'll bet it wasn't to the extent that we've seen Albert struggled in the games against the Chargers and Raiders and Ravens, seeing as how the Hawks attempted 45 passing plays whereas the Chiefs attempted just slightly between 25-30 against the aforementioned opponents.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    I'll point out again sacks given up this year:

    Albert - 7.75 in 16 games
    Okung 4 in 10 games
    And with Albert giving up 7 of those "7.75" sacks in the last month of the season, you can throw that right out the window. Plus, Okung had to pass block for a lot more pass plays during that same 10 game span that he played, than Albert did during those same ten games.

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    I'm not saying Albert is better than Okung, I'm just pointing out that your poster boy isn't perfect, yet you seem to throw him slack when needed.

    He struggled in the first half, but picked it up in the 2nd half of today's game. That post I made was after the first half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    And with Albert giving up 7 of those "7.75" sacks in the last month of the season, you can throw that right out the window. Plus, Okung had to pass block for a lot more pass plays during that same 10 game span that he played, than Albert did during those same ten games.

    So the fact that Albert went 3 quaters of the season giveing up .75 sacks isn't a sign that he is getting better. He may have hit the wall the last month of the season but in prior seasons he would have given up far more sacks. The question is if Albert can advoid hitting the wall in the comeing years.

    Okung gave up almost as many sacks in 6 less games. You can make an excuse that it was with more pass plays but that's just that an excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    So the fact that Albert went 3 quaters of the season giveing up .75 sacks isn't a sign that he is getting better. He may have hit the wall the last month of the season but in prior seasons he would have given up far more sacks. The question is if Albert can advoid hitting the wall in the comeing years.

    Okung gave up almost as many sacks in 6 less games. You can make an excuse that it was with more pass plays but that's just that an excuse.
    He didn't give up 7 sacks in the last month of the season. He gave up 3 against the Raiders, but the rest of the month he was fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    He didn't give up 7 sacks in the last month of the season. He gave up 3 against the Raiders, but the rest of the month he was fine.
    Isn't this moot? Okung only gave up four sacks his rookie year even though he played with the worst other four starting OL in the league. He had a phenomenal rookie year (including post-season) by any measure.

    And does anyone really think Seattle would swap Okung for Albert right now? And does anyone think that KC *wouldn't* swap Albert for Okung right now?

    Not to say that we shouldn't have drafted Berry (another debate for another day), but anyone pretending Okung had a bad game is sniffing a lot of glue right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwilliams View Post
    Not to say that we shouldn't have drafted Berry (another debate for another day), but anyone pretending Okung had a bad game is sniffing a lot of glue right now.
    Anyone pretending Okung didn't have a bad first half is sniffing a lot of glue right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    Anyone pretending Okung didn't have a bad first half is sniffing a lot of glue right now...
    Maybe we wtched different games. The Okung I saw in the 1st half had a lot of trouble with Peppers, but managed to keep him off his QB. He also had a holding penalty, but that isn't the end of the world. He did as well as any LT could.

    What did you see that I didn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwilliams View Post
    Maybe we wtched different games. The Okung I saw in the 1st half had a lot of trouble with Peppers, but managed to keep him off his QB. He also had a holding penalty, but that isn't the end of the world. He did as well as any LT could.

    What did you see that I didn't?
    He didn't see anything that you didn't see. He's just putting up a phony argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwilliams View Post
    Maybe we wtched different games. The Okung I saw in the 1st half had a lot of trouble with Peppers, but managed to keep him off his QB. He also had a holding penalty, but that isn't the end of the world. He did as well as any LT could.

    What did you see that I didn't?
    About the 12 minute mark in the 2nd quarter, Okung took the wrong guy and Hasselbeck got hit from a guy coming off the corner....several hurries, a holding...I just like to give brdemspey crap about his boyfriend.

    I can't remember the whole game now and each and every thing, but those are a few things a remember. He played better in the 2nd half as I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    He didn't see anything that you didn't see. He's just putting up a phony argument.
    See above for a few examples...
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