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    hey gang,

    I ran across some interesting information on Forbes.com that I compiled and thought I would put up here for some comparison purposes.

    It all has to do with the amount of money in the NFL these days and where that money is being spent. These numbers are from the 2009 season.

    First, a little information about the numbers.

    Current Value = The latest value of the team
    Revenue = The amount of gross income the team received in 2009
    Operating Income = The amount of money left over after expenses but before taxes and interest payments
    Player Expense = The amount of money spent on player salaries, benefits and bonuses
    Gate Receipts = The amount of money from ticket sales including club seating
    Margin Percentage = (not really correct here, but works) this is the percentage of operating income against total revenue
    Players Percentage = the percentage of player costs to revenue
    Overhead = the amount of money that was spent on overhead including stadium costs and everything else that it takes to run the team

    Ok so here are the best and worse along with the Chiefs in each category

    Current Value:
    Dallas Cowboys = 1.8 billion
    KC Chiefs = 965 Million 20th overall
    Jaguars = 725 million

    Revenue
    Cowboys = 420 million
    Chiefs = 235 million 23rd overall
    Lions = 210 million

    Operating Income
    Cowboys = 143.3 million
    Chiefs = 47.8 Million 6th overall
    Dolphins = -7.7 million

    Player Expense
    Giants 166 million
    Chiefs 111 million (we were last in this category)

    Gate Receipts
    Cowboys 112 million
    Chiefs 53 million 16th overall
    Raiders 34 million

    Overhead costs
    Cowboys = 133.7 million
    Chiefs = 76.2 million 14th
    Bills = 57.8 million

    I found this interesting. It looks like the owners could learn a few things from the owner of the Bills on how to get costs down.

    Overall, here are some interesting numbers league wide to think about.

    All the teams in the NFL have a combined value of 32.6 BILLION dollars

    All the teams in the NFL collected 8 billion in revenue for the 2009 season

    All the teams in the NFL ended up with 1 billion in operating income. Interestingly enough, this is what the owners have stated they want to keep that amount at.

    Players have received 4.494 billion in expenses, or 56.06% of total revenue.

    Overhead, or somtimes called operating costs are in excess of 2.45 billion dollars collectively or 30% of revenue.

    For those of you who are business savvy, those numbers will mean something to you. For those of you who see that the players only get 56% and really don't know much about business you will think the players should get more. Interestingly enough, with a margin of 13.3% overall, the NFL is healthy, but not getting overly rich.

    Putting that in perspective, if you owned your own business in construction. If your company made 100K in revenue in one year, you would have made 13K for your troubles. Its all about volume.

    It appears some teams could work hard to get their costs down and save some money, which is another of the owners demands as they ask the players to pick up flights and hotel rooms on their own.

    Anyway, I thought this information was interesting. If you want to see the numbers for yourself. You can visit:

    #32 Jacksonville Jaguars - Forbes.com and walk backwards through each team from the end forward.


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    There were some talks today in Chicago WITHOUT LAWYERS...........maybe this will help. I think DeMaurice Smith is on the verge of being a fartbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbacker51 View Post
    There were some talks today in Chicago WITHOUT LAWYERS...........maybe this will help. I think DeMaurice Smith is on the verge of being a fartbag.
    It was secret meeting with some of the big name owners, Representing Dallas, Pittsburgh, Patriots, Giants and Jacksonville. Jacksonville being the only insignificant owner.

    They said it was so secret not all teams new it was even taking place. To me this means the owners are divided, and you most likely have the big market owners making compromises that could end up ruining the small market teams.

    I am on the fence with this whole lock out, but the one thing I am worried about is hurting the small market teams and making this league like the NBA or NFL. I certainly think the players are worth the money, as long as it is structure to help all players, not just the great one. I think they are being just as greedy as the owners so I cant pick one or the other, but I do not like secret meetings unkown to other NFL teams and I think this could be a worse case scnerio based on my concerns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbacker51 View Post
    There were some talks today in Chicago WITHOUT LAWYERS...........maybe this will help. I think DeMaurice Smith is on the verge of being a fartbag.
    I hope to see more of this maybe even without Demaurice Smith. I think on the players side he is most to blame for this whole mess. The guys is a toatal D BAG.

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    Get er done! Get er done!!!!!! That is it period.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    I hope to see more of this maybe even without Demaurice Smith. I think on the players side he is most to blame for this whole mess. The guys is a toatal D BAG.
    Well Demaurice is still around and the talks continue to drag on. The more I hear from this guy, the more I believe that Matthewschiefs is right. I would believe if anyone with an ounce less ego, this deal would be done already.


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    Id like to see de smiths approval rating in the NFLPA. I can already guess the rating from the fans, for the good of the game he needs to move on to something else in life. Rodger Goofel can go away too. The longer this drags on and on and on and on the more I dont like these two baffons.

    I ran across this and found it an interesting point...

    I believe that the real issue at this point is that the players have selected a litigator to represent them and not a negotiator. DeSmith's specialty is not going to be getting a CBA done but rather attempting to sue the league till they are on their knees and give back the old CBA.
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    I have to say that this stinking pile of bovine excrement, is costing both the owners, but probably more the players. It is bovine excrement when you go in to a meeting not planning on negotiating, and it is stupid to think that you can not be replaced. I really hope the owners, start training camp on time, start signing players that want to play, and to hell with it all. The core group that needs to resolve this, needs to do it, stop ######## around and get it done!

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    Do you all know that if I go to my employer and say that I am not going to work, until I have what I believe I deserve in pay, I will walk out. Do I have a job anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tornadospotter View Post
    Do you all know that if I go to my employer and say that I am not going to work, until I have what I believe I deserve in pay, I will walk out. Do I have a job anymore?

    No you wouldn't but your employer mostlikey wouldn't have locked you out. (chief31 should be proud of me for that )


    But the good news the talk is starting to be postive. I am feeling alot better in thinking this gets done late June early July. WE WILL HAVE A SEASON.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayvern View Post
    the more I believe that Matthewschiefs is right. .


    I'm sorry I didn't here this part could you say that again

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