tyson jackson

**jacko58** · 02-28-2011, 07:08 PM

i think its time for him to show why hes payed or drop himi didnt like the pick and wonder why he gets paid so much to sit on the bench we need him to play like seymoure i still love glen dorsey yes we need a nt and if jackson cant pick it up then our line is weak

**Xanathol** · 02-28-2011, 08:26 PM

Seymour is a 4-3 DE. Jackson is in a 3-4. 3-4 DEs are about occupying blockers, then tackles - stats really are icing more than the meat of their production. If you expect Seymour numbers out of a 3-4 DE, you need to reassess your expectations.

**DMN** · 03-02-2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Xanathol

Seymour is a 4-3 DE. Jackson is in a 3-4. 3-4 DEs are about occupying blockers, then tackles - stats really are icing more than the meat of their production. If you expect Seymour numbers out of a 3-4 DE, you need to reassess your expectations.

you put icing on your meat?!?! I like your style!

**Xanathol** · 03-02-2011, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by SAPHOJUNKIE

Uh...Richard Seymour was a 3-4 defensive end his entire NFL career until landing in Oakland.

Not true. NE ran a 4-3 his first couple of seasons where he played DT, then NE switched to a hybrid type of 3-4, where the D-line still played a penetrating style, not 2-gap technique a traditional 3-4 plays ( like KC and what Tyson & Dorsey are being asked to do ).

Originally Posted by DMN

you put icing on your meat?!?! I like your style!

That's just how I roll!

**DMN** · 03-03-2011, 10:37 AM

This is his third year and I believe Crennel will bring the best out of him. Besides I can have to believe we will address the NT and LOLB situations and if that happens it will greatly help his cause.

On that note I think Studebaker and Gilberry will be big contributors this year....

**SAPHOJUNKIE** · 03-02-2011, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Xanathol

Seymour is a 4-3 DE. Jackson is in a 3-4. 3-4 DEs are about occupying blockers, then tackles - stats really are icing more than the meat of their production. If you expect Seymour numbers out of a 3-4 DE, you need to reassess your expectations.

Uh...Richard Seymour was a 3-4 defensive end his entire NFL career until landing in Oakland.

Tyson Jackson isn't in the mold of a Richard Seymour. Pioli specifically addressed this, as Seymour was the poster child for the New England "draft your front 3 first" mentality.

Pioli compared him more to Russell Maryland, not Seymour. Not a penetrating DE who makes flashy plays.

Seymour still got numerous sacks from the 5 technique in New England.

Personally, I think Tyson Jackson is going to do really, really well this year. Call me crazy, but I honestly believe we're coming out of next season completely confident in our defensive ends.

Nose tackle remains a question mark...

**jacko58** · 02-28-2011, 08:34 PM

my expectations are for him to be on the field atleast cant take up blockers from the bench

**matthewschiefs** · 02-28-2011, 08:44 PM

This is going to be a big year for Tyson it's his 3rd season that's the year that if your going to get it and be a good NFL player you start to make that jump. I hope to see it from Tyson.

**70 chiefsfan70** · 02-28-2011, 08:47 PM

I didn't like the Jackson pick either, but we have him and I'm sure hes staying till his contract is up.

I do expect him to step it up this coming season, usually it takes 25 to 30 games for Defensive lineman (especially for 3-4 defenses) to get it. Sure Jackson is going into his third season and we all expected more from him, but keep in mind he missed a bunch of games and played hurt in some as well.

I expect lots of good stuff from Jackson this coming season.

edited: If my memory is correct people were asking for Dorseys head untill game 31 and 32.

**Hayvern** · 02-28-2011, 09:04 PM

I heard the same things out of people about Dorsey. This year he showed us a few things. You can still see he has some improvement room, but he is getting it now.

I expect the same from Jackson.