Players Union decertifies

**SAPHOJUNKIE** · 03-11-2011, 05:06 PM

Per Chris Mortensen, ESPN NFL insider.

Players union has filed decertification papers in Minneapolis court.

Peaceful renegotiation of new CBA is now a thing of the past. The courts will decide, and there may be no football this year.

**Three7s** · 03-11-2011, 05:19 PM

Guess I should take up gardening.

**Lazeye** · 03-11-2011, 06:05 PM

If the season is lost then so am I as a fan, I am sorry to many broke people in the world to be a fan of a sport where we have crybabys balling of a BILLION dollars, somebody got 15 cent I can borrow? I am not going to post again until what would have been the 1st game of the year in sept. If we are not playing then this will be my last post and it has been fun being all of your friends. 28 years of being a chiefs fan may go down the drain because of a bunch of B*tch@s, I would like to hear what the coachs think about this matter since they are in the middle of this mess wanting to get there teams ready.

**N TX Dave** · 03-11-2011, 07:13 PM

Well if they mess around and screw up the season I am with you I still do not watch MLB because of their last strike. I still consider the Royals my team but I might look at the standings a couple of weeks is how I follow MLB. That is how I will change to follow the NFL if they screw this up, my football will be Friday night and Saturday. The damn crybabies are going to screw a good thing. From what I just read the only thing the owners did not give in on was opening the books for the last 10 years. Read this Players' union decertifies as talks break down - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

**matthewschiefs** · 03-11-2011, 07:50 PM

From what I have heard today on ESPN the owners offered to meet the players halfway on the issues. The players turned that down. Wanting to see the owners books for the past 10 years. I think I saw the owners offered the books for the past 5 (not sure on that) I have said all along I think the players are being greedy just like the owners I think that this is some proof of that.

I am not an expert and don't no much about the issues at all but I am not sure how they will do in the anti trust suite against the owners. Seeing that the NFL now is not the only place you can go to play football. There is a UFL now. The players won't want to go to the UFL to play because they won't make nearly as much but it is there.

I think that the greed on both sides is going to what ends up getting a deal done. Neither side is going to want to miss one game check. I think come July august both sides are going to be willing to give in more then they are now.

**Coach** · 03-11-2011, 08:55 PM

Why do players think they deserve to make half of the profits? Are they going to cough up their half of the losess if the franchise loses money in any given year? The player salaries are in large part why I pay $125 for a ticket. It's ridiculous that a bunch of greedy players that are already overpaid can ruin the game of football.

Screw the union and the current players. I would be happy to see the owners move on without the current players. Let's draft this year and start anew. The current players can come back if and when they want to collect a their measily million dollar paychecks.

**matthewschiefs** · 03-11-2011, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Coach

Why do players think they deserve to make half of the profits? Are they going to cough up their half of the losess if the franchise loses money in any given year? The player salaries are in large part why I pay $125 for a ticket. It's ridiculous that a bunch of greedy players that are already overpaid can ruin the game of football.

Screw the union and the current players. I would be happy to see the owners move on without the current players. Let's draft this year and start anew. The current players can come back if and when they want to collect a their measily million dollar paychecks.

While I do think that the players should get more of the profits because they are the ones that supply the product I don't no if they should get 20% more then the owners maybe 10-15% more.

I do think it says a lot that the owners have been the ones that have made some movement from there first demands and the players have stuck with theres according to reports. I have said all along that there is greed from there side they have proved me right.

**Coach** · 03-12-2011, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by matthewschiefs

While I do think that the players should get more of the profits because they are the ones that supply the product

Wrong. Who supplies the product??? The owners OWN the business and therefore they supply the product, not the employees.

I suppose you also believe that Apple employees should receive 50% of the profits since they manufacture the iPhone. And GM employees deserve 50% of the profits since they drive the screws into the car.

I hate the sense of entitlement that exists in this country. Btw, I'm not referring to you Matthew, I don't even know you. If employees/players don't like the deal they are getting, they should look for another company/team or start their own business. Why should the owners be penalized for having a successful business?

As you can probably tell I am bigger fan of capitalism than I am of unions.

**chief31** · 03-12-2011, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Coach

Wrong. Who supplies the product??? The owners OWN the business and therefore they supply the product, not the employees.

I suppose you also believe that Apple employees should receive 50% of the profits since they manufacture the iPhone. And GM employees deserve 50% of the profits since they drive the screws into the car.

I hate the sense of entitlement that exists in this country. Btw, I'm not referring to you Matthew, I don't even know you. If employees/players don't like the deal they are getting, they should look for another company/team or start their own business. Why should the owners be penalized for having a successful business?

As you can probably tell I am bigger fan of capitalism than I am of unions.

I think that all employees are entitled to whatever they can get through the common practices of capitalism.

And, since collective bargaining is one of the primary tools of any free market negotiation, then go Capitalist unions.

Funny how so many encourage allowing the free market to speak, until it speaks on behalf of the slaves.

I support capitalism. But only if everybody is allowed to play.

**Hayvern** · 03-13-2011, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by chief31

I think that all employees are entitled to whatever they can get through the common practices of capitalism.

And, since collective bargaining is one of the primary tools of any free market negotiation, then go Capitalist unions.

Funny how so many encourage allowing the free market to speak, until it speaks on behalf of the slaves.

I support capitalism. But only if everybody is allowed to play.

OMG did you actually use the word "slaves"? SLAVES? are you kidding me?

That offends me, even the lowliest player that never plays a game and sits on the bench makes more than I make if 6 years. You want to call them slaves?