Chiefs workout Nevada QB Colin Kaepernick

**Ryfo18** · 03-24-2011, 11:52 AM

I'm not sure if this has been spread around or not, but I just heard Kaepernick say he had a workout with the Chiefs.

I haven't done my homework on him, but I know he's been climbing up draft boards recently. Gannon was comparing his mechanics to Aaron Rodgers, when Rodgers came out of Cal. Obviously a guy you have to coach up, but some solid potential in this guy. Would love to see the Chiefs bring in a guy like him and groom him to be a QB in the next 3-4 years.

**Ryfo18** · 03-29-2011, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by tornadospotter

You are very correct, he is not a starting NFL QB! But he is an NFL caliber player, and could be worthy of a look or two, who knows, I see a play maker, I see a football player that is of intrest at QB, or any other position.

Exactly. He has excellent intangibles...strong arm, good feet, fairly accurate. He just needs some work as a backup so that he can improve his pocket presence.

Nothing anyone has said in this thread is incorrect about him, but that's the reason why he is not a 1st (or maybe even 2nd) round pick. He's not quite NFL-ready, but he has the skills to be successful in this league.

**pojote** · 03-29-2011, 09:56 AM

Currently, we have 3 QB's, Cassel will be our starter next season and a few more at least.
Backup QB is (was) Croyle, FA if I'm right. And I don't think he will get an extension.
Palko was in the practice squad most of the season, maybe he will be awarded with a permanent promotion to the team.
Another development QB is an interesting idea, but I don't know if it's a need for the team.

**chiefnut** · 03-29-2011, 10:14 AM

if we draft this kid it would not be before the 5th round and i doubt if it would be as a backup for QB. more likely he would be like brad smith from the jets that is brought in as a wildcat option play 5 or 6 times a game. he rushed for 300yds and never threw a pass yet is listed as a QB on their roster.

**Ryfo18** · 03-29-2011, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by chiefnut

if we draft this kid it would not be before the 5th round and i doubt if it would be as a backup for QB. more likely he would be like brad smith from the jets that is brought in as a wildcat option play 5 or 6 times a game. he rushed for 300yds and never threw a pass yet is listed as a QB on their roster.

I don't know if that's a fair comparison...

Brad Smith QB rating (3 yrs w/ Missouri): 114.7, 110.7, 114.1

Colin Kaepernick QB rating (4 yrs w/ Nevada): 150.8, 132.1, 139.1, 150.5

Last year he completed 65% of his passes. He definitely has the upside to take in the 3rd/4th round.

**chiefnut** · 03-29-2011, 11:17 AM

there has not been much success in the nfl for spread offense shotgun QBs. not saying he wasn't a good college QB only that he will be considered more for his running ability first by the nfl scouts as was brad smith and will probably fill a similar role in the nfl. as for the CHIEFS he has virtually no experience in a pro style offense and we certainly do not seem to be ready to install the spread run and gun offense so i think he won't be getting drafted as the heir apparent to cassel. he may end up as such but i doubt if that would be what he would be drafted for.

**Ryfo18** · 03-29-2011, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by chiefnut

there has not been much success in the nfl for spread offense shotgun QBs. not saying he wasn't a good college QB only that he will be considered more for his running ability first by the nfl scouts as was brad smith and will probably fill a similar role in the nfl. as for the CHIEFS he has virtually no experience in a pro style offense and we certainly do not seem to be ready to install the spread run and gun offense so i think he won't be getting drafted as the heir apparent to cassel. he may end up as such but i doubt if that would be what he would be drafted for.

Here's why I disagree with the "not much success for spread offense shotgun QBs." Sam Bradford and Kevin Kolb seem to be doing ok. The fact of the matter is that most QB's don't succeed in the NFL. And for every spread QB that fails (Alex Smith), there's a pro-style offense QB that fails (Matt Leinart).

I believe you should draft a quarterback on talent. You can't coach talent. What can you coach? Mechanics. That's why when I see a guy like Kaepernick that is accurate, has a big arm, and is mobile, it's a tremendous skill set worth gambling on. Give him 3-4 years to develop his mechanics and you may have a guy that can take over your team by the time Cassel's contract is up. If you decide to resign Cassel, then you have an NFL ready quarterback behind him that you can use as a huge trade chip to acquire likely another 1st round pick.

I'm not saying that Kaepernick is a future starter, but he has the intangibles to be one given the time (and provided he has the motivation) to work on his mechanics. The Brodie Croyle experiment has run it's course...he's just not the answer at backup quarterback.

**Seek** · 04-01-2011, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Ryfo18

I don't know if that's a fair comparison...

Brad Smith QB rating (3 yrs w/ Missouri): 114.7, 110.7, 114.1

Colin Kaepernick QB rating (4 yrs w/ Nevada): 150.8, 132.1, 139.1, 150.5

Last year he completed 65% of his passes. He definitely has the upside to take in the 3rd/4th round.

And Brad Smith plays WR in the NFL.

Instead of giving us a rating. Give us completion percentage and number of attempts. If you throw the ball 10 times, a game, to your RB in Screens, the Ratings are skewed. Specially since most teams are loading the box and expecting run.

**Ryfo18** · 04-01-2011, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Seek

And Brad Smith plays WR in the NFL.

Instead of giving us a rating. Give us completion percentage and number of attempts. If you throw the ball 10 times, a game, to your RB in Screens, the Ratings are skewed. Specially since most teams are loading the box and expecting run.

His senior year he was 233/359 (64.9%, 28 passes/game) for 3022 yards (8.42 y/att), 21/8 TD/INT, and took 10 sacks in 13 games.

These stats are readily available for anyone interested in digging deeper.

**Ryfo18** · 04-05-2011, 06:09 PM

Just read something cool about Kaepernick's arm strength. The guy threw a 94MPH fastball as a senior in high school. That's just nuts!

Mayock compares Colin Kaepernick to Tim Tebow | National Football Post

**chiefnut** · 04-06-2011, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Ryfo18

Just read something cool about Kaepernick's arm strength. The guy threw a 94MPH fastball as a senior in high school. That's just nuts!

Mayock compares Colin Kaepernick to Tim Tebow | National Football Post

different people can read the same thing differently, what caught my eye was "You could make a case that he's this year's Tim Tebow," NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said. "He's a big, powerful kid who doesn't know what he's doing yet. He’s got a big arm, but he has mechanical issues.”
he is projected 2nd to 4th round which leaves alot of room for speculation. i know ryfo is really sold on this kid and if we do pick him up i hope ryfo is proved totally 100% correct in his assessment of this kid. although i do also hope that if he is wrong about him, we passed on him.

by the by..brad smith is not a WR he is listed as a QB for the jets although he does return kickoffs and punts and has been used to run out of the wildcat and did not throw a pass in 2010.