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    I saw this posted on a FB group. I want you all to read this. This sold me on why we should draft AL if we can:

    The last time the Cheifs won a Super Bowl, they were QB'd by a first round draft choice (Len Dawson)

    Last year, there were 12 teams in the playoffs. 10 of them had 1st round draft choices starting for them at QB

    Last season, the Chiefs were 7-1 VS teams that did NOT have a 1st round draft choice starting at QB. They were 3-6 VS teams that did have a 1st round draft choice at QB. Of those 3 wins, one was against the rookie Sam Bradford, one was against the bust Alex Smith, and one was agianst Philip Rivers at home on Monday night in a downpour.

    In their last 4 playoff games, the Chiefs have lost to Joe Flacco, Peyton Manning, Peyton Manning again, and John Elway. all first round draft choices.

    In fact, in the ENTIRE playoff history of the team since the merger, the ONLY Playoff win the team has VS. a QB drafted in the first round was against the Raiders and Todd Marinovich.

    Last season, the Green Bay Packers won the superbowl AFTER they lost their starting RB and starting TE to season ending injuries early in the season. They also lost signifigant players at other positions to injury and were near the top if not at the top of players missing games due to injury. They had 1st round draft pick, Aaron Rodgers at QB.

    The Colts are all healthy except for Peyton Manning.....anyone seen the colts this year yet? The pretty much suck without him.

    Since the Merger, there have been 19 QB's drafted 1st overall. Here they are in order:
    1970 Terry Bradshaw
    1971 Jim Plunkett
    1975 Steve Bartkowski
    1983 John Elway
    1987 Vinny Testeverde
    1989 Troy Aikman
    1990 Jeff George
    1993 Drew Bledsoe
    1998 Peyton Manning
    1999 Tim Couch
    2001 Micael Vick
    2002 David Carr
    2003 Carson Palmer
    2004 Eli Manning
    2005 Alex Smith
    2007 JaMarcus Russel
    2009 Matt Stafford
    2010 Sam Bradford
    2011 Cam Newton

    Lot's of star power there....and these are just the guys who went no.1 overall.

    Matt Cassel went 11-5 for New England in 2008. In the 11 games they won that year, these were the QB's they defeated:
    Damon Huard.
    Brett Favre with the Jets throwing 25 pics
    J.T O'Sullivan starting for the 49ers.
    Jay Cutler during the horrible season that got Mike Shanahan fired
    Marc Bulger of the Rams on a bad Rams team.
    Trent Edwards of the horrible Buffalo Bills TWICE!
    Chad Pennington of the Dolphins...after 2 shoulder surgeries.
    Seneca Wallace....starting for the Seahawks because Hasselbeck was injured weeks before.
    JaMarcus Russel and the Raiders....and
    Curt Warner....during a blizzard where Warner couldn't throw and the Cardinals couldn't run either.

    If EVER there was a gravy train to a 67 Million Dollar contract, this was it....taking all those weapons on New England, and having to win 11 games VS that? The 1991 Dave Krieg Cheifs would have won all 11 of those EASY. By the way of their 5 Losses, one was to old Brett Favre, another to Peyton Manning, another to Ben Roethlisberger and another to Phillip Rivers.

    Matt Cassel completes less than 60% of his passes. Matt Cassel was last in the NFL in yards per attempt. The Chiefs are limted because they CAN'T throw down field. The Chiefs were 1st in the NFL in rushing last year. They only scored 13 rushing TD's. The Colts were 29th in the NFL in rushing last year. They also only scored 29 rushing TD's. 11 of Matt Cassels 27 TD's were under 10 yards. This suggests that they either couldn't run it in, or they let Matt throw it in to prop up his numbers.

    Since 1989 we have used Steve Pelluer, Steve Deberg, Dave Krieg, Joe Montana, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac, Trent Green(who was good in Vermiels system for sure), Damon Huard, Brody Croyle, Tyler Thigpen and Matt Cassel as our starting QB's

    ...I could go on and on.....but crunch on these for a while and think about why it might not be a bad idea to want that no.1 pick.

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    I don't want the chiefs to be so pathetic that they get the number 1 pick but if we fall to that spot this season we better take andrew luck

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    Wow, very nice read and very interesting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sn@keIze View Post
    I saw this posted on a FB group. I want you all to read this.
    Good read. I think you're a little hard on Cassel, who is a smart, efficient game manager, and whose fault this season really isn't. The season is all on the GM for failing to find (or even ditching) real depth and even some starters, and on the HC for not having this team ready to play. The players themselves, even the crappy ones, are clearly giving their all.

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    Put any QB in their prime with this current team and we would still be 0-2. But I am going to quit explaining how Cassel is still, even with this sad sack team, one of the better QB's THIS YEAR. Well, I gotta go, I'm not going to jump on the band wagon and I am not going to get ran over by it either. Blame the QB, always the first actions of band wagoners when things aren't going well. Pathetic!

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    I would like someone to put just as much effort into the 1st round draft pick busts so we can compare the numbers. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by azchiefsfan View Post
    Put any QB in their prime with this current team and we would still be 0-2. But I am going to quit explaining how Cassel is still, even with this sad sack team, one of the better QB's THIS YEAR. Well, I gotta go, I'm not going to jump on the band wagon and I am not going to get ran over by it either. Blame the QB, always the first actions of band wagoners when things aren't going well. Pathetic!
    Even when he did well last year these people were complaining. They are simply just not fond of Cassel. So no matter what he does, until he wins the Chiefs a Super Bowl, they will continue to complain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIC J View Post
    I would like someone to put just as much effort into the 1st round draft pick busts so we can compare the numbers. Just a thought.
    I did last week. There is a 66.67% bust ratio for QB's taken in the first round. I posted the names, years and teams. Sorry, but when someone like Vince Young is cut after failing to win 50% of his games in 3 years, he is a bust-despite the hype. But even if you were to add the VY type QB's in the nuetral and not as busts, it's still 60% complete failures.

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    Pennington #18 2000-Bust
    Vick #1 2001-Bust for Atlanta/Good after prison
    Carr #1 2002-Bust
    Harrington # 2002-Bust
    Ramsey #32 2002-Bust
    Palmer #1 2003-Bust(one good season)
    Leftwich #7 2003-Bust
    Boller #19 2003-Bust
    Grossman #22 2003-Bust for Bears/Potential with DC
    Manning #1 2004-Winner
    Rivers #4 2004-Winner
    Roethlisberger #11 2004-Winner
    Lossman #22 2004-Bust
    Smith #1 2005-Bust
    Rodgers #24 2005-Winner
    Campbell #25 2005-Bust
    Young #3 2006-Bust
    Leinhart #10 2006-Bust
    Cutler #11 2006-Jury's still out
    Russell #1 2007-Bust
    Quinn #22 2007-Bust
    Ryan #3 2008-Winner
    Flacco #18 2008-Winner
    Stafford #1 2009-Jury's still out
    Sanchez #5 2009-Winner/Jury's still out
    Freeman #17 2009-Winner/Jury's still out
    Bradford #1 2010-Jury's still out
    Tebow #25 2010-Bust

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    Quote Originally Posted by azchiefsfan View Post
    Pennington #18 2000-Bust
    Vick #1 2001-Bust for Atlanta/Good after prison
    Carr #1 2002-Bust
    Harrington # 2002-Bust
    Ramsey #32 2002-Bust
    Palmer #1 2003-Bust(one good season)
    Leftwich #7 2003-Bust
    Boller #19 2003-Bust
    Grossman #22 2003-Bust for Bears/Potential with DC
    Manning #1 2004-Winner
    Rivers #4 2004-Winner
    Roethlisberger #11 2004-Winner
    Lossman #22 2004-Bust
    Smith #1 2005-Bust
    Rodgers #24 2005-Winner
    Campbell #25 2005-Bust
    Young #3 2006-Bust
    Leinhart #10 2006-Bust
    Cutler #11 2006-Jury's still out
    Russell #1 2007-Bust
    Quinn #22 2007-Bust
    Ryan #3 2008-Winner
    Flacco #18 2008-Winner
    Stafford #1 2009-Jury's still out
    Sanchez #5 2009-Winner/Jury's still out
    Freeman #17 2009-Winner/Jury's still out
    Bradford #1 2010-Jury's still out
    Tebow #25 2010-Bust
    Again, your list sucks. For the reasons everyone pointed out to you before.

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