AFC West

**Yoda** · 11-06-2011, 07:40 PM

Looks like no one wants to win it. All three teams in the lead are pathetic and have no balls! Embarrassing!!! NFC west redeux? 7-9 wins the west!!!

**Midwest Bolt Fan** · 11-07-2011, 10:41 AM

Hello to All and warmest greetings midwest (Pike Co. IL) bolt fan here did not join your forum to fight or cause ill will have been a afc west fan since the old AFL days chiefs/chargers have a long history of good games never remember a dull one just like to talk afc west football yes all are playing like no one wants the div. may want to look out as the denver tebow's are only one game down on everyone do you guys allow free thinking? hope so been on the charger forums for a while now those those left coast lib's don't seem to like ya' unless you think or post a certain way it's all the bad water out there i guess the poor folks have to drink hope we can talk some football togather this winter Thanks & Take Care

**iratefan** · 11-07-2011, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Midwest Bolt Fan

Hello to All and warmest greetings midwest (Pike Co. IL) bolt fan here did not join your forum to fight or cause ill will have been a afc west fan since the old AFL days chiefs/chargers have a long history of good games never remember a dull one just like to talk afc west football yes all are playing like no one wants the div. may want to look out as the denver tebow's are only one game down on everyone do you guys allow free thinking? hope so been on the charger forums for a while now those those left coast lib's don't seem to like ya' unless you think or post a certain way it's all the bad water out there i guess the poor folks have to drink hope we can talk some football togather this winter Thanks & Take Care

all i gotta say is, punctuation. cant understand a word youre typing otherwise.

**Chiefster** · 11-07-2011, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Coach

The challenge that the Chiefs have is that the easy part of their schedule is now over.

Carson Palmer looks like the same guy I've watched struggle for the last 5 years. Wasted draft picks. Wasted.

Phillip Rivers looks like he has other things on his mind. My guess is a lack of preparation. And let's face it, norv turner is blowing what could have been a great 5-7 year run for the bolts. This team has been and currently is the most talented aft west roster.

The donkeys are a joke and will be as long as Tebow is the qb. Deep down inside, John Fox is happy they beat the raiders yesterday but pissed that he is stuck with Tebow for at least one more week. The donks will never win anything with Tebow as their qb. If Tim Tebow wins a playoff game at qb, I will shut down this site. Ain't gonna happen.

This division is gonna come down to heart and who wants it most. But let's not kid ourselves, the afc west winning team will be a minor speed bump for whomever they play in the playoffs.

Not a single thing I can disagree with here. The AFC West has really gone down the toilet.

**azchiefsfan** · 11-07-2011, 12:44 PM

I disagree with the idea the Dolts are more talented. We have the Qb, receivers and runners to be an elite team. We have the secondary to shut down the best offenses. With an average or better O and D line, we compete for the Super Bowl. The Dolts have a good, but declining QB-he will be out of the league in 2 years. They have VERY average to sub-average receivers and NO running game and an O line marginally better than ours. They have a secondary that depends on a better than average D line-when the line gets no rush, their coverage is worth 3-4 seconds. Too many people think this is still a Schottaleadheimer quality team-it isn't. They are absolutely not better than us and only a still strong D line keeps them competitive at all.

**azchiefsfan** · 11-07-2011, 01:09 PM

For clarification: Rivers will be a back-up quality QB within 2 years and because he is a spoiled brat in a mans body, will walk away instead.

**KCraised** · 11-07-2011, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Fastphilly

A chance to be a game up in the division and two games up on either the Raiders or Chargers Thursday night and they cough up a beat down at home to the hapless Dolphins? It's one thing to lose a game close because it's rare for an NFL team to go 0-16 so you know Miami will get a game sooner or later, but in this fashion? This is a BAD loss and even if we do win the division I don't know if I can stomach another first round loss at home. It has seem to be a pattern over the last 16 years and it's getting tiresome.

This team has sucked since preseason so it's not surprising that the truth resurfaced, although getting bodyslammed yesterday like they did was pretty shocking.
This team has never gotten any respect, doesnt matter what you do. Remember some years back when we started out 9-0 with Vermeil? Thats not all luck. But by everyone you ask on the professional level, it was the contributing factor. We always have an asterik by anything we do. If we win the division at 7-9, i feel like the home run thats hit in baseball by the other team. If we win it, i say we throw it back out on the field. We don't deserve it. I want to win it because we were that good, not because we sucked less....

**chief31** · 11-07-2011, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by KCraised

This team has sucked since preseason so it's not surprising that the truth resurfaced, although getting bodyslammed yesterday like they did was pretty shocking.
This team has never gotten any respect, doesnt matter what you do. Remember some years back when we started out 9-0 with Vermeil? Thats not all luck. But by everyone you ask on the professional level, it was the contributing factor. We always have an asterik by anything we do. If we win the division at 7-9, i feel like the home run thats hit in baseball by the other team. If we win it, i say we throw it back out on the field. We don't deserve it. I want to win it because we were that good, not because we sucked less....

Oh, you're back.

Surprise, surprise.

All of a four posts in almost a month, as The Chiefs win four in a row, and one loss brings you back in full force, to tout how the bad is reality, and the good, a fluke.

4-4....
First place...

If this were last season, we would all be thrilled with the huge improvement over the prior year.

I would think that losing the number one cog to the offense, and possibly the best player on defense would account for a pretty big setback, not to mention, that 2010 was so obviously a fluke, right?

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! The 14 wins are not reality! The 10 losses are, and the 14 wins should be viewed as losses!"

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It's just some growing pains people. Expect some more, very soon. That does not mean that this team is no good.

It means adjusting to changes, especially the change of losing your best players for a year, are tough to deal with.

That which does not kill us makes us stronger.

**#58ChiefsFan** · 11-07-2011, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by azchiefsfan

I disagree with the idea the Dolts are more talented. We have the Qb, receivers and runners to be an elite team. We have the secondary to shut down the best offenses. With an average or better O and D line, we compete for the Super Bowl. The Dolts have a good, but declining QB-he will be out of the league in 2 years. They have VERY average to sub-average receivers and NO running game and an O line marginally better than ours. They have a secondary that depends on a better than average D line-when the line gets no rush, their coverage is worth 3-4 seconds. Too many people think this is still a Schottaleadheimer quality team-it isn't. They are absolutely not better than us and only a still strong D line keeps them competitive at all.

They put up 38 points yesterday compared to our 3. That makes them a little better since we both played Monday night.

I 100% agree the SD window is little more than a peep hole at this point.

I'd still take Haley anyday over Turner, Jackson or Fox, but I still am concerned and always have been that our lines will ever be adequate again.

To me this is becoming the biggest mystery of the Pioli regime.

**matthewschiefs** · 11-07-2011, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Midwest Bolt Fan

Hello to All and warmest greetings midwest (Pike Co. IL) bolt fan here did not join your forum to fight or cause ill will have been a afc west fan since the old AFL days chiefs/chargers have a long history of good games never remember a dull one just like to talk afc west football yes all are playing like no one wants the div. may want to look out as the denver tebow's are only one game down on everyone do you guys allow free thinking? hope so been on the charger forums for a while now those those left coast lib's don't seem to like ya' unless you think or post a certain way it's all the bad water out there i guess the poor folks have to drink hope we can talk some football togather this winter Thanks & Take Care

Wow Pike co I live there to lol

**josh1971** · 11-07-2011, 09:33 PM

Not that it matters. Irritating thing I realized tonight- since 2004, the AFC has been represented in the super bowl by the Colts, Steelers, or Pats. For a league going for parity, they're not doing real well on the AFC side. Doubt we'll see the Colts in the big one this year.

The AFC West is a mess at the moment.