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    Kansas City Chiefs (4-5) vs. New England Patriots )6-3)
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    Watch online: ESPN Live Stream Online

    Line: Pats by 17 Over/Under: 46.5

    2011 reg. season trends:
    The Chiefs are 5-4 ATS.The Chiefs are 3-1 ATS away.The Chiefs are 5-1 ATS as the underdog.The Chiefs are 3-1 ATS as an away underdog.The Patriots are 5-4 ATS.The Patriots are 2-2 ATS at home.The Patriots are 4-4 ATS as the favorite.The Patriots are 2-2 ATS as a home favorite.
    Kansas City Leaders
    Passing: Cassel - 160-269, 1713 yds, 10 tds
    Rushing: Battle - 87 car, 403 yds, 1 td
    Receiving: Bowe - 41 rec, 663 yds, 4 tds


    New England Leaders
    Passing: Brady - 238-360, 3032 yds, 23 tds
    Rushing: Green-Ellis - 116 car, 460 yds, 5 tds
    Receiving: Welker - 72 rec, 1006 yds, 6 tds


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    From general manager Scott Pioli and defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel to injured quarterback Matt Cassel, the Kansas City Chiefs have plenty of connections to the New England Patriots.
    On-field success isn't currently one of them.

    Coming off a critical road victory that left them alone atop the AFC East, the Patriots return to Foxborough on Monday night to face a reeling Chiefs team that will have unproven Tyler Palko under center.

    As Bill Belichick's czar of player personnel, Pioli helped build the Patriots (6-3) into a powerhouse last decade before coming to Kansas City in 2009.

    Pioli traded for Cassel -- who emerged in 2008 with New England after then-Chiefs safety Bernard Pollard ended Tom Brady's season with a hit to his knee in the season opener -- and prior to 2010, hired Crennel, New England's defensive coordinator during its run of three Super Bowl victories in four seasons.

    Cassel had a Pro Bowl season in 2010 and Kansas City rode an improved defense under Crennel to a surprising AFC West title, but a repeat playoff berth is looking unlikely. After bouncing back from an 0-3 start with four straight wins, the Chiefs were outscored 48-13 in consecutive home losses to Miami and Denver.

    To make matters worse, Cassel suffered what coach Todd Haley called a "significant" hand injury in last Sunday's 17-10 loss to the Broncos and could miss the remainder of the season after undergoing surgery Monday.

    Palko, who's thrown 13 NFL passes -- 26 fewer than Cassel had when he took over for Brady in 2008 -- will be under center for the foreseeable future.

    "Tyler is the next in line, and he's done a terrific job, like I said, of keeping himself ready," Haley said. "That's what the No. 2 quarterback has to do, because you don't know. At a moment's notice, you could be in there playing, just like any other position."

    Despite having been outscored 157-40 in their losses, the Chiefs (4-5) are still just a game out in the West.

    The Patriots, meanwhile, have first place in the East all to themselves -- a reality that was tough to imagine after back-to-back losses to Pittsburgh and the New York Giants left them tied with Buffalo and the New York Jets.

    Facing the possibility of the franchise's first three-game skid in a decade, New England responded last Sunday night as Brady threw for 329 yards and three touchdowns in a 37-16 victory over the Jets.

    "No matter what happened last week, whether we won, lost, at home or on the road or in London, it doesn't matter. Once that game is over we have to put it behind us," Belichick said. "Now it's about preparing for Kansas City, what they do, what their schemes are, what their players are, what their tendencies are in certain coaching decision situations that we'll have to make."

    This will be the first time Brady has faced the Chiefs since the 2008 opener, and only his second meeting against Crennel. Brady threw for 265 yards and three TDs in a 34-17 win over Cleveland in 2007, when Crennel was the Browns head coach.

    "It's a very good group and because they're very well coached they're rarely in a bad position," Brady said of a Chiefs team that ranks 22nd in total defense allowing 364.3 yards per game. "In order to make plays, you have to run good routes, you have to make good throws, you have to pass protect against one of the best pass rushers that we face in (Tamba) Hali."

    Hali has six of Kansas City's league-low nine sacks, but even if the Chiefs can get outside pressure, Brady should be able to find his tight ends. Rob Gronkowski has 16 catches for 214 yards and three TDs the past two weeks, while Aaron Hernandez remains another of Brady's favorite targets.

    While the ability of the Patriots' offense to score has rarely been in question, the NFL's lowest-ranked defense's chances of stopping anyone certainly were before facing the Jets.

    But New England's front constantly pressured Mark Sanchez -- defensive end Andre Carter had four sacks -- and helped take some of the heat off a makeshift secondary.

    That unit, however, will likely be without its top player for a few games. Cornerback Devin McCourty suffered a right shoulder injury against the Jets and could miss a few weeks, while safety Patrick Chung is questionable after sitting out last Sunday with a foot injury.

    Those injuries could leave the Patriots with few answers against Chiefs wideout Dwayne Bowe, whose 19 receiving TDs since the start of 2010 trail only Detroit's Calvin Johnson (23).

    Bowe, however, has gone four games without finding the end zone, a drought that could continue with the inexperienced Palko taking the snaps.

    That's not something Belichick is counting on.
    "I think that Palko can do everything that he needs to do from what Matt has done," he said. "I wouldn't expect them to deviate too far from what they like to do."

    The Patriots, who have won four straight against the Chiefs in Foxborough, are trying to avoid their first consecutive home losses with Brady under center since November 2006.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayvern View Post
    Sarcasm? I would never make an argument that every pass the receiver gets two hands on should be caught, there are some passes like that one where that rule does not apply.
    Unless he is hit as he grabs it, then he is supposed to catch that ball.

    WR was my position, and if I was able to get one hand on the ball, then I knew I should have caught it.

    Was it a good pass? No. But it absolutely should have been caught.


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    Wow...that was a hell of a play

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    Chiefs hold the Pats to 3 points. Good goal line stand there.

    I thought the Chiefs would be down about 20-3 by now so it's a good first half for them. Let's eliminate the mistakes and penalties and with a few breaks the Chiefs could still win this game.

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    I find it funny that some of you like Palko so far but Palko has missed some wide open players downfield. And it's the same complaint some of you have about Cassel. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIC J View Post
    I find it funny that some of you like Palko so far but Palko has missed some wide open players downfield. And it's the same complaint some of you have about Cassel. LOL
    Dont forget that Cassel apparently puts the ball in the wrong spot which causes our receivers to get lit up. Ive seen Palko set 3 receivers up to get destroyed so far.

    The offensive game planning is doing decently so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIC J View Post
    I find it funny that some of you like Palko so far but Palko has missed some wide open players downfield. And it's the same complaint some of you have about Cassel. LOL
    He's 10-14 for 111 yds right now so he's only had 4 incompletions, and one of those was tipped for an INT. I'm not saying Cassel wouldn't have done just as well or better, but give the guy a chance. It's only his first start.

    I think he's done pretty good, so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIC J View Post
    I find it funny that some of you like Palko so far but Palko has missed some wide open players downfield. And it's the same complaint some of you have about Cassel. LOL

    I think there is a reason to give Palko a break this is his first start. Not many QBS that have turned out pretty good light it up on there first start

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    Quote Originally Posted by SIC J View Post
    I find it funny that some of you like Palko so far but Palko has missed some wide open players downfield. And it's the same complaint some of you have about Cassel. LOL
    I like Palko.

    I think he has a good head on his shoulders, and he seems to be quite confident, for a guy in the situation he is in.

    As far as I'm concerned, he looks pretty good, so far.

    As for others who seem to like him, I'd have to say that a big reason for some of that popularity is just that he is not Matt Cassel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    I think there is a reason to give Palko a break this is his first start. Not many QBS that have turned out pretty good light it up on there first start
    I agree. He is doing very well for someone who has had only 1 week to prepare for the starting role, but for those who say he has done much better than Cassel I would have to disagree with.

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    Ugh! Put the defense that played the first half back in. I liked those guys better.

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