Not impressed with new regime.

**Bike** · 11-26-2011, 01:50 AM

In the third year of the Pioli/Haley era, one would think KC would be maybe 3/4 of the way to building a championship team, and getting to the playoffs last year gave me a lot of hope. But now this team is going in the wrong direction.
Many on here will blame injuries. I disagree. Good teams overcome injuries. Good teams draft depth. Both our offensive and defensive lines are horrible. Just flat out bad. There is no excuse for this. None.
I posted 3 years ago that this team needed to build from inside out - build the lines first. I got shot down.
So who is accountable for this mess? Clark? Pioli? Haley?
With over 30 million in cap room, why couldn't we make some strides on getting our lines fixed?
WHY?
Why are we still trying to squeeze 4/3 players into a 3/4 defense?
WHY?
I'm not sure who is making the decisions on this team regarding player personnel, coaches, and philosophy, but whoever it is - is failing. Time to re-evaluate.

**garciakcfan** · 11-28-2011, 10:34 AM

Yes!!! Fire them all!! More turnover at the coaching positions would be great!!! If anything this year, our defense has been the bright spot!!! You wanna know why we gave up all those points?? How about our offense looking like garbage week in and week out?? How about the fact that our defense is constantly on the field and being put in horrible field positions... Get real people and watch and understand the game!!!! Do you realize how many times our offense has had drive killing mistakes?? Whether its a flag right after a first down pick up or a TURNOVER!!!!! This season was a wash after week 2!!! I'm just smart enough to realize it.... And they get a pass this year in my mind because of all the important injuries and lack of depth and the lack of legitimate second pass rusher!! It sucks but its the way it is....

**70 chiefsfan70** · 11-28-2011, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by garciakcfan

Yes!!! Fire them all!! More turnover at the coaching positions would be great!!! If anything this year, our defense has been the bright spot!!! You wanna know why we gave up all those points?? How about our offense looking like garbage week in and week out?? How about the fact that our defense is constantly on the field and being put in horrible field positions... Get real people and watch and understand the game!!!! Do you realize how many times our offense has had drive killing mistakes?? Whether its a flag right after a first down pick up or a TURNOVER!!!!! This season was a wash after week 2!!! I'm just smart enough to realize it.... And they get a pass this year in my mind because of all the important injuries and lack of depth and the lack of legitimate second pass rusher!! It sucks but its the way it is....

I feel your pain!

**Chiefster** · 11-28-2011, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by tornadospotter

Well the OC position seems to be a problem. Is the problem the OC, or the HC wanting to be the OC?

I think the latter, but that's just my opinion.

**chief31** · 11-28-2011, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by drstandley31

He hasn't done much more than Herm, and I hated Herm. I like Haley's passion (which Herm did not have), but he doesn't seem to understand leadership and it shows with the revolving assistant coach door. I think we have some very good players, and we need a really good leader to get this entire organization to the next level.

Herm - From 10-6 to 9-7, to 4-12, to 2-14

Haley - From 2-14 to 4-12, to 10-6, to a disaster of injuries.

It is not remotely similar. Herm took a winner and turned it into a loser, and Haley has taken a loser, and made it into a winner.

Originally Posted by matthewschiefs

To me Haley has tempered his passion to much. Why? I don't no maybe it's the media being after him when he would get in guys faces and chew them out. I think that's why Haley has not been a good coach this year. We have seen way to much of the Herm it's ok face on the sideline and less of the letting guys no when they messed up. This team seems to respond to that type of coaching like Cassel did the time they got into it on the sideline. Haley has become way to much like herm for him to get anther year IMO

He was 4-12 with all that "passion". He cooled it, and went 10-6.

And, like it, or not, our starters who were lost for the season have not come back yet. And there has been nothing available in free agency to try and make up for it either.

Getting tired of hearing it? It will stop when those superstar players are back.

Until then, the situation stays the same. Except that we have lost even more of our most important players.

**Bike** · 11-28-2011, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by TopekaRoy

My reply wasn't meant to sound condescending.. In your previous post you didn't blame injuries and you gave the bad players a pass. You gave Haley a pass for not getting the bad players to play better.

So you blame Hunt for hiring Pioli and you blame Pioli for hiring Haley. Yet in another thread, you did blame Haley!
So you blame the head coach and then you say you don't blame the head coach; you blame the guy that hired him (Pioli).

You also blame Hunt for hiring Pioli. Do you think he hired a bad GM on purpose or do you think he is just incompetent? If you think he is trying his best, but he is just incompetent, then hiring Pioli is not his fault. Who do you blame for his lack of football acumen? His father (Lamar) taught him football and knew he would inherit the team. If you blame Clark for being the way he is why don't you blame the guy who made him the way he is? Do you think Clark should sell the team to someone who knows more about football since you blame him for the Chiefs not being a good team in spite of devastating injuries, and almost no preseason with a new OC?

What are you blabbering about? If it makes it easier for you to understand, I blame the teams management, or lack thereof, for the situation the Chiefs find themselves in. Haley, Pioli, and Hunt. All three of 'em. There.

**drstandley31** · 11-29-2011, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by garciakcfan

Yes!!! Fire them all!! More turnover at the coaching positions would be great!!! If anything this year, our defense has been the bright spot!!! You wanna know why we gave up all those points?? How about our offense looking like garbage week in and week out?? How about the fact that our defense is constantly on the field and being put in horrible field positions... Get real people and watch and understand the game!!!! Do you realize how many times our offense has had drive killing mistakes?? Whether its a flag right after a first down pick up or a TURNOVER!!!!! This season was a wash after week 2!!! I'm just smart enough to realize it.... And they get a pass this year in my mind because of all the important injuries and lack of depth and the lack of legitimate second pass rusher!! It sucks but its the way it is....

Well thankfully you're so much smarter than the rest of us. Good thing you're around to keep us in line.