For those who said Bowe gave up.....

**SIC J** · 11-28-2011, 12:26 AM

Really? LOL

This is a pic of right when the ball hits Lewis' hands. The ball is CLEARLY thrown behind Bowe as well as WAY over his head. Lewis was I believe a good 3 yards behind Bowe and he jumped up barely catching it.

FACT is, Palko had plenty of time to thrown the ball and threw it into a crowd of 5 defenders. And it's not like this was the 1st or 2nd time he did that but like the 5th time in 2 games!

**chief31** · 12-10-2011, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Drunker Hillbilly

Nobody in the AFC West but Vincent Jackson is pretty darn good. Yes, if Roddy White could stay healthy (this year) I would take him over Bowe. His numbers are excellent!! It's not that I think Bowe is a bad receiver I just can't stand the over hype he gets on this site. His attitude is one big reason I think he is overrated. Just doesn't look like he is all in all the time. maybe it's me being over critical but it's how I feel. The drops are another reason I think he is overrated. Drops waaaayyyy to many balls that should be caught.

The general consensus on Bowe, around here, is that he is an underachiever, who drops too many passes to be considered a true #1 WR.

But I think the desire to have a great #1 WR has some folks extra eager to crown Bowe.

My biggest issue with Bowe isn't how many passes he drops, but the timing of them.

It seems that every time I see him drop a pass, it is on third down.

It just amplifies the whole drops situation for me.

**Chiefster** · 12-10-2011, 11:39 PM

He didn't catch the ball, nor was it physically possible for him to catch the ball. The question in this situation is not whether he made an attempt to catch the ball; it is whether or not he ran the right rout as apposed to whether or not Palko threw an accurate pass. However, to call into question Bowe's effort on this play to make the catch, to me, is a moot point and therefor irrelevant. Just my two cents.

**Drunker Hillbilly** · 12-10-2011, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by chief31

ZERO?

Nah.

POSTGAME, 11-27

Next day Q&A with HC Todd Haley, 11-28

Maybe a little, hunh?

At no point do I see anything about the route Bowe was supposed to run or the route he did run....ZERO

**Drunker Hillbilly** · 12-10-2011, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by chief31

The general consensus on Bowe, around here, is that he is an underachiever, who drops too many passes to be considered a true #1 WR.

But I think the desire to have a great #1 WR has some folks extra eager to crown Bowe.

My biggest issue with Bowe isn't how many passes he drops, but the timing of them.

It seems that every time I see him drop a pass, it is on third down.

It just amplifies the whole drops situation for me.

Fair points which I agree with. These contribute to my opinion of him being overrated.

**Ryfo18** · 12-10-2011, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Drunker Hillbilly

Nobody in the AFC West but Vincent Jackson is pretty darn good. Yes, if Roddy White could stay healthy (this year) I would take him over Bowe. His numbers are excellent!! It's not that I think Bowe is a bad receiver I just can't stand the over hype he gets on this site. His attitude is one big reason I think he is overrated. Just doesn't look like he is all in all the time. maybe it's me being over critical but it's how I feel. The drops are another reason I think he is overrated. Drops waaaayyyy to many balls that should be caught.

Ok that's cool...FYI... Roddy White has 21 dropped balls over the last 2 years, Bowe 16. Baited you into that one...

And anyone who has watched Roddy would know that about him...I don't see any Falcons fans yelling to trade the guy.

Fact is, Bowe's 8 dropped passes this year are the same amount Welker has.

**Ryfo18** · 12-10-2011, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by matthewschiefs

I kinda agree with you. To me Bowe has A TON of talent he has the talent to be a #1 WR for a team in the NFL. That being said he's not a #1 WR in the NFL. He just disappers way to much in games. He's not a guy that's going to carry a team IMO but he can be one of the guys that helps carry a team.

To me this is more related to quarterback play.

**matthewschiefs** · 12-11-2011, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by Ryfo18

To me this is more related to quarterback play.

I would agree that's part of it. But the great ones always find a way to at least show up. We have seen Bowe go a few full games without one catch. Yes Qb is part of it. But I have seen great wrs play with far less qbs then Cassel and find a way to show up each week.

**Ryfo18** · 12-11-2011, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by matthewschiefs

I would agree that's part of it. But the great ones always find a way to at least show up. We have seen Bowe go a few full games without one catch. Yes Qb is part of it. But I have seen great wrs play with far less qbs then Cassel and find a way to show up each week.

Maybe so, but look at a guy like Fitzgerald, who is widely viewed as one of the best receivers in the league. He's playing with Kolb/Skelton, certainly nothing to brag about there. His stats:

55 rec, 943 yds, 6TD

Roddy White this year, playing with Matt Ryan, who is pretty solid:

68 rec, 881 yds, 5 TD

Bowe:

59 rec, 868 yds, 4 TD

I mean, there's not a noticeable difference really. I get it, Fitzgerald is a better receiver, but anyone who's saying Bowe isn't a "#1 receiver" is completely oblivious to what he's doing in comparison to the rest of the "#1 receivers."

If Bowe had Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers throwing him the ball, I'm pretty sure he'd be at the top in about every statistical category.

**SIC J** · 12-11-2011, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ryfo18

Maybe so, but look at a guy like Fitzgerald, who is widely viewed as one of the best receivers in the league. He's playing with Kolb/Skelton, certainly nothing to brag about there. His stats:

55 rec, 943 yds, 6TD

Roddy White this year, playing with Matt Ryan, who is pretty solid:

68 rec, 881 yds, 5 TD

Bowe:

59 rec, 868 yds, 4 TD

I mean, there's not a noticeable difference really. I get it, Fitzgerald is a better receiver, but anyone who's saying Bowe isn't a "#1 receiver" is completely oblivious to what he's doing in comparison to the rest of the "#1 receivers."

If Bowe had Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers throwing him the ball, I'm pretty sure he'd be at the top in about every statistical category.

Beat me to it!!!!!!

**Drunker Hillbilly** · 12-11-2011, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Ryfo18

Ok that's cool...FYI... Roddy White has 21 dropped balls over the last 2 years, Bowe 16. Baited you into that one...

And anyone who has watched Roddy would know that about him...I don't see any Falcons fans yelling to trade the guy.

Fact is, Bowe's 8 dropped passes this year are the same amount Welker has.

Baited me? That's funny! I believe I said drops was ONE of the reasons I think he is overrated, not the ONLY reason. Look at the numbers for the last 5 years and tell me who the better WR is. So, are you of the opinion that Bowe is a better WR than White? Look, before this gets out of hand, Bowe is the best receiver on our team and I hope he produces. I hope his attitude gets better and he catches more of the balls that he should catch. Saying that, I would not pass up the opportunity to trade him if someone were asking or even putting him out there for a trade. I fear that if this team continues to lose his attitude will never get any better and may become a distraction. There are so many area's that need to be improved on this team that maybe someone would be willing to give something in return that could help this team more than a #2 playing the #1 position on a bad football team.