It's officially time to sart thinking about next year...

[Bike]

With 8 losses and Green Bay next week, I'd say our playoff chances this season are over. So what do we need to do to start gearing this team towards the playoffs next year? Whatever we do, I say sooner the better.
1. New HC. Let him bring in his own staff. Maybe he is already on staff (Romeo or Zorn?)...Or maybe somebody else is out there.
2. All our other needs are well known. QB, OL, RB, NT (if we stay with 3-4), some help for Hali and DJ, safety.
The fact that we have all these glaring needs in this - the third year of the Haley experiment, speaks volumes on this HC's ability to take us to the Superbowl.

[Bike]

Look, our QB sucks, our Oline needs alot of work, injuries play a part. This is not the worse part. Next week will be the worse part. We all knew going into this game the odds were against us. It should not be a suprise we lost. I for one was suprised we even got a touchdown. What you and I think or feel really doesn't matter. Haley's hands are pretty much tied with what he has to work with at this point. Orton's a sissy and Cassel in my book would not have done much better.

You are correct. At this point, Its all about pride and a roster spot on next years team.

[chief31]

Well to begin with, your numbers don't add up, we don't have more wins than 2010.
Secondly, it's the 4th time he's been in a position this year where he's had his *** handed to him. The first two games of the year when he had most of his team. Historic losses. Hey, it's a business, win or we'll find someone else that will. He made bad choices and the team is paying for it. You can spin this all you want, but this team should not be in this position.

This team, minus the heart of it's offense, it's Pro-Bowl #5 overall pick at Safety, it's starting QB, and with it's depth having been frequently tested to the fourth string, has won more games this season, than it did in 2007, 2008, or 2009.

That, in itself, is quite an accomplishment.

But this is a coach who led us from 4-12 to 10-6 and a division crown on top of that.

But you failed to answer my question...

With the way this team played today, you would have been the model of composure on the sideline, right?

[drstandley31]

This team, minus the heart of it's offense, it's Pro-Bowl #5 overall pick at Safety, it's starting QB, and with it's depth having been frequently tested to the fourth string, has won more games this season, than it did in 2007, 2008, or 2009.

That, in itself, is quite an accomplishment.

But this is a coach who led us from 4-12 to 10-6 and a division crown on top of that.

But you failed to answer my question...

With the way this team played today, you would have been the model of composure on the sideline, right?

Well, as much as I hate oakland, they got it handed to them, and even an oakland head coach didn't do that. So what would I do, who knows, but I do know I have a highly stressful job in my space, and no, I've never done that. Stupid question, You nor I are in that situation. I know he now regrets doing it, if that helps. My point, he's in charge and has to take responsibility for where we are! PERIOD! Man up or take a walk.

[chief31]

Well, as much as I hate oakland, they got it handed to them, and even an oakland head coach didn't do that. So what would I do, who knows, but I do know I have a highly stressful job in my space, and no, I've never done that. Stupid question, You nor I are in that situation. I know he now regrets doing it, if that helps. My point, he's in charge and has to take responsibility for where we are! PERIOD! Man up or take a walk.

So, with all the emotional rants you have shown here, you are confident that you would keep your cool?

No argument then.

As for holding Todd Haley responsible for where this team is, I do.

The problem is, this team has met, at least, reasonable expectations.

As I stated before, they have already won more games than they did in three straight years prior to last season, which was a success. (Thanks Todd Haley)

I am surprised that they have done as well as they have.

[Bike]

So, with all the emotional rants you have shown here, you are confident that you would keep your cool?

No argument then.

As for holding Todd Haley responsible for where this team is, I do.

The problem is, this team has met, at least, reasonable expectations.

As I stated before, they have already won more games than they did in three straight years prior to last season, which was a success. (Thanks Todd Haley)

I am surprised that they have done as well as they have.

Yeah we've gone from piss-poor to div. champs back to piss-poor.
Thanks Todd. Yeah, I know. Its the injuries.

[chief31]

Yeah we've gone from piss-poor to div. champs back to piss-poor.
Thanks Todd. Yeah, I know. Its the injuries.

Better than we were when he got here, and even without the MVP, a couple of Pro Bowlers, and other starters and their backups.

Take Aaron Rodgers, Charles Woodson, and a few others away and watch The Packers fight for the toilet bowl.

How's your big bet on the Colts' Super Bowl chances looking?

[Bike]

Better than we were when he got here, and even without the MVP, a couple of Pro Bowlers, and other starters and their backups.

Take Aaron Rodgers, Charles Woodson, and a few others away and watch The Packers fight for the toilet bowl.

How's your big bet on the Colts' Super Bowl chances looking?

Even you have to admit that losing Aaron Rodgers (or a Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Big Ben) isn't compapable to losing a Matt Cassel. Cassel is an nfl backup at best. And we drafted a tight end with a history of injuries. And guess what? He's injured. Jimmy Graham was there for us - the Saints had the forsight to get him, and we didn't. I'll give you Berry though. Devastating loss.
You blame injuries. I blame management. So be it.

[chief31]

Even you have to admit that losing Aaron Rodgers (or a Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Big Ben) isn't compapable to losing a Matt Cassel. Cassel is an nfl backup at best. And we drafted a tight end with a history of injuries. And guess what? He's injured. Jimmy Graham was there for us - the Saints had the forsight to get him, and we didn't. I'll give you Berry though. Devastating loss.
You blame injuries. I blame management. So be it.

JC is our Aaron Rodgers.

[Bike]

JC is our Aaron Rodgers.

Aaron Rodgers is another missed opportunity that was there for us to draft. Nothing against DJ - but again - its the story of this team for the past 4 decades. It looks like to me that nothing has changed.

[figcrostic]

I say keep Haley despite what a lot of people think we lost most of our best players and our QB and still won 5 games. Look at the Colts they lost their QB and haven't won a game should Jim Caldwell be fired??