It's officially time to sart thinking about next year...

**Bike** · 12-11-2011, 04:17 PM

With 8 losses and Green Bay next week, I'd say our playoff chances this season are over. So what do we need to do to start gearing this team towards the playoffs next year? Whatever we do, I say sooner the better.
1. New HC. Let him bring in his own staff. Maybe he is already on staff (Romeo or Zorn?)...Or maybe somebody else is out there.
2. All our other needs are well known. QB, OL, RB, NT (if we stay with 3-4), some help for Hali and DJ, safety.
The fact that we have all these glaring needs in this - the third year of the Haley experiment, speaks volumes on this HC's ability to take us to the Superbowl.

**drstandley31** · 12-11-2011, 04:21 PM

NOT ROMEO!!!! I've watched him here in Cleveland. He's awful. You may think his DC abilities are ok, I say average at best. How many times have we been blownout this year? NO. Give Cower anything he wants to coach this team.

**hardcorechiefsfan** · 12-11-2011, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by drstandley31

NOT ROMEO!!!! I've watched him here in Cleveland. He's awful. You may think his DC abilities are ok, I say average at best. How many times have we been blownout this year? NO. Give Cower anything he wants to coach this team.

I totally agree but wouldn't Cower give less than best if he had a lovely paycheck just to do out his deal to just go to a better team?

**drstandley31** · 12-11-2011, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by hardcorechiefsfan

I totally agree but wouldn't Cower give less than best if he had a lovely paycheck just to do out his deal to just go to a better team?

I'm not sure I understand. but no, a coach like Bill Cower would not give less than best in any circumstance. He walked the KC sidelines once before, I want him back. I've always wanted him back, I hated that we lost him.

**okikcfan** · 12-11-2011, 06:11 PM

Sorry but I think it in our best intrest to keep Haley. Bill Cowher will not be coaching next year, his words. Did you really feel with Palko under center that we would pull this one off? Really. He hasn't scored a touchdown untill today and no, last weeks hail mary doesn't count. You bring in a new coach and we start all over. Everybody will be back next year. QB,QB,QB is what we really need. Cassel is not the man and Palko is not even a decent back up. With a good draft and FA next year and all of our injured players back , we will be a much better team next year. Haley isn't going any place.

**drstandley31** · 12-11-2011, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by okikcfan

Sorry but I think it in our best intrest to keep Haley. Bill Cowher will not be coaching next year, his words. Did you really feel with Palko under center that we would pull this one off? Really. He hasn't scored a touchdown untill today and no, last weeks hail mary doesn't count. You bring in a new coach and we start all over. Everybody will be back next year. QB,QB,QB is what we really need. Cassel is not the man and Palko is not even a decent back up. With a good draft and FA next year and all of our injured players back , we will be a much better team next year. Haley isn't going any place.

Cowher or not, haley's not the choice. Did I think we could win with Palko under center... NO. I don't understand why Palko is on our team. If you're going to have a coach that makes decisions like that, how do you ever expect this team to get better. We had 10 wins last year, and we go into this year 25 million under the cap, with zero depth in the OL and Palko as your back up. Generally you build on success. No, not us. Did you see his melt down today? Not only was his team melting down, but he did too, and it cost us another 15 yards on the stupidest drive in NFL History! Jets managed to understand this was an important game today, too bad we didn't.

**chief31** · 12-11-2011, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by drstandley31

Cowher or not, haley's not the choice. Did I think we could win with Palko under center... NO. I don't understand why Palko is on our team. If you're going to have a coach that makes decisions like that, how do you ever expect this team to get better. We had 10 wins last year, and we go into this year 25 million under the cap, with zero depth in the OL and Palko as your back up. Generally you build on success. No, not us.

Maybe because we have gotten better?

Facts trump frantic speculation every time.

This team has more wins, in less games, than in 2008, 2009, or 2010. And that is even considering the massive loss of talent.

Originally Posted by drstandley31

Did you see his melt down today? Not only was his team melting down, but he did too, and it cost us another 15 yards on the stupidest drive in NFL History! Jets managed to understand this was an important game today, too bad we didn't.

Are you frustrated?

Are you almost insane with rage over this team's performance today?

Hard to contain your anger?

If you were on the sideline, would you have kept your cool?

Pretty shocking that a guy might have bit of a "breakdown" today, isn't it?

**drstandley31** · 12-11-2011, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by chief31

Maybe because we have gotten better?

Facts trump frantic speculation every time.

This team has more wins, in less games, than in 2008, 2009, or 2010. And that is even considering the massive loss of talent.

Are you frustrated?

Are you almost insane with rage over this team's performance today?

Hard to contain your anger?

If you were on the sideline, would you have kept your cool?

Pretty shocking that a guy might have bit of a "breakdown" today, isn't it?

Well to begin with, your numbers don't add up, we don't have more wins than 2010.
Secondly, it's the 4th time he's been in a position this year where he's had his *** handed to him. The first two games of the year when he had most of his team. Historic losses. Hey, it's a business, win or we'll find someone else that will. He made bad choices and the team is paying for it. You can spin this all you want, but this team should not be in this position.

**Bike** · 12-11-2011, 08:01 PM

Getting slaughtered is embarrassing. Injuries do play a part, but not having competent backups is no excuse after three years of leading this team.

FAIL.

**okikcfan** · 12-11-2011, 08:40 PM

Look, our QB sucks, our Oline needs alot of work, injuries play a part. This is not the worse part. Next week will be the worse part. We all knew going into this game the odds were against us. It should not be a suprise we lost. I for one was suprised we even got a touchdown. What you and I think or feel really doesn't matter. Haley's hands are pretty much tied with what he has to work with at this point. Orton's a sissy and Cassel in my book would not have done much better.