Estimated Draft Position

[texaschief]

1. Indy 0-16
2. STL 2-14 SOS .561
3. Min 2-14 SOS .574
4/5. Car 5-11 SOS .479
4/5. KC 5-11 SOS .479
6. Phi 5-11 SOS .491
7. CLE 5-11 SOS .497
8. Buf 5-11 SOS .503
9. Mia 5-11 SOS .509
10. Jax 5-11 SOS .533
11. TB 5-11 SOS .550
12. Was 6-9 SOS .479

This is a list of the teams currently with worse records or tied with the Chiefs and where I think the records will end up at the end of the season. If it weren't for Cutler getting injured the week before we played Chicago and then them losing Forte along with a fluke hail-mary, we'd end the season with just 4 wins. This team/organization has given up on the season and doesn't show any signs of life. Green Bay, then back to back with division leaders dying for a playoff spot doesn't bode well for this lame Chiefs team. I've got a lot of teams sitting at 5-11. That's just a coincidence, as I looked at all their schedules, I could only see one or fewer wins in each of their respective schedules.

When there's a tie among records when it comes to draft position, the first tie-breker is strength of schedule. I indicated strength of schedule with "SOS." The number next to the SOS is the respective team's opponent's winning percentage... which, equals the strength of schedule rank. If things end the way I'm projecting and assuming that the SOS doesn't change (which it will), the Chiefs should end up in a coin-toss with the Panthers for the 4th and 5th spots.

You have to think the Colts will trade either the pick or Peyton Manning. I see too much Eli Manning not going to San Diego in all this BS with Andrew Luck. Archie is going to make sure Luck and Peyton aren't on the same teams. Indy could just pass on Luck and go with a completely different position altogether. I think they'll trade down but it's impossible to say how far down they'll go. If things stay as they are and the Colts pass on Luck and keep Peyton, Luck could actually fall to Kansas City. You've got Peyton in Indy, Bradford in StL, Ponder in Minn, and Newton in Carolina. If the word gets out that Luck could fall to Kansas City, there's going to be a mad rush to trade with one of the top 4 spots to jump in front of KC.

If Luck is who the Chiefs want, they could easily jump to #2 ahead of Minnesota and remove all chance of him being picked by Minnesota. In my prediction, the worse case scenario for the Chiefs is picking 5th. But even if that happens, you've still got Bradford and Newton ahead of you... meaning you've got at least 2 teams who aren't interested in a QB... and that's even assuming the Colts are done with the BEST QB in the history of the game... and if that indeed happens, the Chiefs are STILL left with one of either Luck, Barkley, or the Heisman winner if they want to take a QB!

If there were EVER a year to take a QB high in the draft, it's THIS year. The rookie contracts are not even HALF of what they use to be and this is perhaps the deepest crop of QBs this league has seen in more than a decade. Even if Cassel was playing at his absolute peak at the moment, you've STILL got to consider taking a QB and grooming him at the VERY LEAST... HELL, the Colts have the best QB EVER and they're still probably going to take Luck... and he didn't even win the Heisman!!

The more I think about this and look at the current situation the Chiefs are in, the more I think Pioli's job is dependent on him taking a chance on a possible franchise QB if the Chiefs do, in fact, land a top 5 draft pick... not to mention, we're probably going to be getting a new head coach who will probably want his own pick at QB.

Not that I'm advocating him as our new HC... but we already know Josh McDaniel is willing to pull the trigger on a first round QB... and I believe he's going to be here next season.

[GoHardorGoHome]

[/quote]
I think we will continue to be at the bottom of the league if we dont upgrade the OL. I think it is a much bigger need over QB.[/quote]

I agree that we definitely need a REAL LT but really, what we need is 3rd down conversions and a QB who doesn't throw int's under pressure. That would be RGIII.

This dude was sacked......get this..........23 times this year. WOW. And he only threw 6 int's (even with all that pressure). You know why? He moves well out of the pocket and has an incredibly accurate deep ball. He also runs and converts 3rd downs. And oh yeah, btw, his passer rating is higher than Luck and all of his numbers (not to mention his 9 rushing TD's). I've watched him for 3yrs and he would be an immediate game changer to our offense even if there was no playbook and he came in and took the snap, avoided the rush and threw it deep to one of three of the killer B's.

Then Defenses would have to assign someone to "spy" him. It would immediately change our ability to move the football.

Picture this:

RGIII - QB
Charles - RB
McClain - FB
Moeki - TE
Bowe - WR
Breaston - WR
Baldwin - WR

McCluster - 3DRB

Holy $&^$






Why do we throw short @$$ passes and never get 3rd down conversions? No time to throw the $%## ball.

YES.....dust off the pocketbook and get us a legitimate LT in FA. Someone proven. Then move Albert to RT. Our defense has done more than we could ever ask them. We are very very close on D.

Get us a mobile QB with accuracy and great judgement and a frickin' legit LT and we are a competitive football team. Go Chiefs!

[OPLookn]

I think we will continue to be at the bottom of the league if we dont upgrade the OL. I think it is a much bigger need over QB.[/quote]

I agree that we definitely need a REAL LT but really, what we need is 3rd down conversions and a QB who doesn't throw int's under pressure. That would be RGIII.

This dude was sacked......get this..........23 times this year. WOW. And he only threw 6 int's (even with all that pressure). You know why? He moves well out of the pocket and has an incredibly accurate deep ball. He also runs and converts 3rd downs. And oh yeah, btw, his passer rating is higher than Luck and all of his numbers (not to mention his 9 rushing TD's). I've watched him for 3yrs and he would be an immediate game changer to our offense even if there was no playbook and he came in and took the snap, avoided the rush and threw it deep to one of three of the killer B's.

Then Defenses would have to assign someone to "spy" him. It would immediately change our ability to move the football.

Picture this:

RGIII - QB
Charles - RB
McClain - FB
Moeki - TE
Bowe - WR
Breaston - WR
Baldwin - WR

McCluster - 3DRB

Holy $&^$






Why do we throw short @$$ passes and never get 3rd down conversions? No time to throw the $%## ball.

YES.....dust off the pocketbook and get us a legitimate LT in FA. Someone proven. Then move Albert to RT. Our defense has done more than we could ever ask them. We are very very close on D.

Get us a mobile QB with accuracy and great judgement and a frickin' legit LT and we are a competitive football team. Go Chiefs![/QUOTE]

Wouldn't be upset with this scenario at all! Get RG3 with our first, a legit LT or RT in free agency and with the 2nd rounder draft us a NT like Ta'amu or Poe.

Walter football has us drafting Jones (QB), Oklahoma, Poe (NT), Memphis and Mosley (OT), Auburn in the first 3 rounds. If this was the case wow would I be happy!

[OPLookn]

I think we will continue to be at the bottom of the league if we dont upgrade the OL. I think it is a much bigger need over QB.

I agree that we definitely need a REAL LT but really, what we need is 3rd down conversions and a QB who doesn't throw int's under pressure. That would be RGIII.

This dude was sacked......get this..........23 times this year. WOW. And he only threw 6 int's (even with all that pressure). You know why? He moves well out of the pocket and has an incredibly accurate deep ball. He also runs and converts 3rd downs. And oh yeah, btw, his passer rating is higher than Luck and all of his numbers (not to mention his 9 rushing TD's). I've watched him for 3yrs and he would be an immediate game changer to our offense even if there was no playbook and he came in and took the snap, avoided the rush and threw it deep to one of three of the killer B's.

Then Defenses would have to assign someone to "spy" him. It would immediately change our ability to move the football.

Picture this:

RGIII - QB
Charles - RB
McClain - FB
Moeki - TE
Bowe - WR
Breaston - WR
Baldwin - WR

McCluster - 3DRB

Holy $&^$






Why do we throw short @$$ passes and never get 3rd down conversions? No time to throw the $%## ball.

YES.....dust off the pocketbook and get us a legitimate LT in FA. Someone proven. Then move Albert to RT. Our defense has done more than we could ever ask them. We are very very close on D.

Get us a mobile QB with accuracy and great judgement and a frickin' legit LT and we are a competitive football team. Go Chiefs!

Wouldn't be upset with this scenario at all! Get RG3 with our first, a legit LT or RT in free agency and with the 2nd rounder draft us a NT like Ta'amu or Poe.

Walter football has us drafting Jones (QB), Oklahoma, Poe (NT), Memphis and Mosley (OT), Auburn in the first 3 rounds. If this was the case wow would I be happy!

[GoHardorGoHome]

Wouldn't be upset with this scenario at all! Get RG3 with our first, a legit LT or RT in free agency and with the 2nd rounder draft us a NT like Ta'amu or Poe.

Walter football has us drafting Jones (QB), Oklahoma, Poe (NT), Memphis and Mosley (OT), Auburn in the first 3 rounds. If this was the case wow would I be happy!

As an avid Oklahoma Sooner fan I must say that Landry only does well in a sound pocket. If he doesn't set his feet, or he gets rushed he will throw INT after INT. Let's hope we have a shot to get RGIII. If not I would take Barkley in a heartbeat.

[OPLookn]

As an avid Oklahoma Sooner fan I must say that Landry only does well in a sound pocket. If he doesn't set his feet, or he gets rushed he will throw INT after INT. Let's hope we have a shot to get RGIII. If not I would take Barkley in a heartbeat.

Agreed, I've watched enough Oklahoma ball to know that Jones is over hyped at a first rounder. I honestly wouldn't be suprized to see him be like Colt McCoy. Supposed to be drafted possibly late round 1st and end up going in the 3rd I believe?

RG3 would be a good guy to get but I just don't know if he'd be there when we pick. I've seen us picking the highest in this thread at 4th or 5th to 14th on walter football.

[dbolan]

Is the problem with positionng or evaluating players for the postions we need?

[OPLookn]

Is the problem with positionng or evaluating players for the postions we need?

I'm not understanding your question because QB, NT and linemen are positions we need. That is unless you like our backup/starting QB of Palko, Richardson as RT and an aging Gregg at NT.