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    Default Who should our 1st draft pick be?

    Okay so if the season ended today we would be 10th overall. As a football coach and miserable Chiefs fan, it's my honest humble redneck opinion that we should attempt to take RGIII, EVEN if we must trade up and this is why:

    - He's a run threat (9 rushing TD's in '11)
    - He doesn't throw int's or make bad decisions
    - He's used to getting sacked - LMAO (23 times in '11)
    - The most accurate deep ball I've seen in a LONG time
    - He will help us convert 3rd downs and force opposing Defenses to stack the box, which opens up the Killer B's

    Imagine this:

    RGIII
    Jamaal Charles
    Le'Ron McClain
    Tony Moeki
    Dwayne Bowe
    Steve Breaston
    Jon Baldwin

    Dexter McCluster on 3rd downs, etc.

    WOW.

    As an Oklahoma Sooners fan I can say that after 3yrs of watching RGIII, he's the real deal. It's a risk I would be willing to bet on if I was Clark Hunt.

    OTHERWISE: If he's not there then we take the very best available LT in the draft and draft nothing but LINEMEN to build back our O-line & maybe a DE to replace Tyson's worthless @$$

    Robert Griffin III stats

    Interesting Article on Recommended Draft Choices (this just confirms my thoughts)

    Your Thoughts Please?
    "If only we could take the 90's D and our '03 O......there's our Superbowl" :(



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    The problem as I see it is with Barry Richardson, Casey Wiegmann, and Ryan Lilja. Richardson has failed to develop into an even average overall starting caliber right tackle. He is average to above average in run blocking but requires constant help when pass blocking. I am a firm believer in the chain-reaction affect when it comes to an offensive line. If a starter requires help in protection, for example, the right guard or tight end slide over to help out the right tackle in pass blocking, that creates a chain-reaction along the line and can allow defenses to overload certain gaps or sides of the line. Also, keep in mind we have two 280 +/- lb. interior offensive linemen in Ryan Lilja and Casey Wiegmann. Both are very good technicians and can move in space, but both are very limited phyiscally and struggle when asked to handle man-blocking assignments. So when you have two light offensive linemen next to each other...and a young right guard....and a poor overall right tackle, you are going to show alot of inconsistency - which is what we have seen from our offensive line.

    I think back to when we had Willie Roaf, Brian Waters, Casey Wiegmann, Will Shields, and a variety of right tackles....we fielded IMO one of the most dominant offensive lines in the history of the NFL. Granted Casey was much younger, but when Roaf and Shields retired, it created a chain-reaction affect. Shields, Roaf, and Waters could handle their man with relative ease on a consistent basis and could also dry help into Wiegmann. When they were no longer there, Waters had more pressure to not only help out the left tackle, but also to help out Wiemann, who often was physically outmatched. So essentially, Wiegmann was exposed. Now we have a Wiegmann-like left guard in Ryan Lilja and we have two very similar players...and struggle to consistently open holes in the rushing game. Now, there are times when the technical experience allow guys like Lilja and Wiegmann to make good blocks, but not on a consistent basis...too many of our offensive linemen need help (Lilja, Wiegmann because of lack of phyiscality not experience, Asamoah because of inexperience, and Richardson because of below average overall abilitity).

    I don't know what the whole dynamic was with Jared Gaither...I have to believe he had problems with the coaching staff to the point where they would only use him as a "jumbo" tight end while they trotted Richardson out continually at right tackle. But to continue going with Richardson week-in and week-out fro Day 1 is a failure not only on the coaching staff, but also the front office. A for effort on signing Gaither, but to not get any use out of him when he was apparently healthy is an F for failure.

    Personally, I would target pending free agent Jeremy Zuttah from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to compete at left guard/center. With Hudson in the mix, I would like to see Hudson play left guard and Zuttah center, where I have heard he has played well in place of the injured Jeff Faine. Both give us the flexibility of being able to play multiple positions between left guard and center. Ryan Lilja should be kept in the mix. I would also like to add a middle round guard prospect for depth. We completely lack any acceptable depth along the offensive line. Do any of us want to go with Steve Maneri for any extended period of time if Branden Albert was injured (with Richardson likely slide to the left side...and Maneri starting at right tackle...scary!!)?

    As for right tackle free agents, the pickings are fairly slim. Anthony Collings from Cincinnati would be worth bringing in to compete at right tackle...I would also look to add a rookie at some point in the draft to compete as well...and provide depth. Maneri is a nice gimmick jumbo tackle, but I don't see him ever making much of an impact other than those nice little jumbo sets we seem to think is en vogue now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figcrostic View Post
    Agreed RGIII is a poor mans cam newton.

    RGIII was a track star, baylor has an excellent teack team not a football school, he is ahurdler after al. he is still learnin the position hass excellent athleticsm had a rocket for an arm. and he is a man of character.

    What turned me off about cam was his whiny press conference.after their first win. his stats were not great but the team won by watching his press conference u woukd a thought they lost and his dad amd the whe pay to play thing. id much rather have rg iii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigeriannightmare View Post
    RGIII was a track star, baylor has an excellent teack team not a football school, he is ahurdler after al. he is still learnin the position hass excellent athleticsm had a rocket for an arm. and he is a man of character.

    What turned me off about cam was his whiny press conference.after their first win. his stats were not great but the team won by watching his press conference u woukd a thought they lost and his dad amd the whe pay to play thing. id much rather have rg iii.
    Yes, I too would rather have RG3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figcrostic View Post
    Agreed RGIII is a poor mans cam newton.
    Dick Vermeil once called Priest Holmes a poor man's Marshall Faulk...

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    If we draft griffin he has to race jc at some point, texas track star vs baylor track star

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    We should take RGIII if he is available. He is immensely talented but also he is a high character guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefs fanatic View Post
    We should take RGIII if he is available. He is immensely talented but also he is a high character guy.
    Quote Originally Posted by toyotapower View Post
    If we draft griffin he has to race jc at some point, texas track star vs baylor track star
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    Dick Vermeil once called Priest Holmes a poor man's Marshall Faulk...
    Love it! Def a great character guy, very smart. Just puttin' it out there that Drew Brees is 6'0 209lbs. We have the weapons to run an offense simliar to New Orleans.

    Look at the Comparisons:

    Big Body WR: Colston / J. Baldwin
    Speedy Slot WR: Henderson / Breaston
    Possession WR: Meacham /Bowe
    Killer TE: Graham / Moeki (when healthy)
    Great QB: Brees / ??????
    Scat Back: Sproles / McCluster
    3 down RB: Ingram (eventually) / Charles

    We are a couple years away from greatness.

    btw.........RGIII is the same frame as Brees and will be a pure passer in the league. He will probably run from time to time but he sticks in the pocket longer than 95% of the QB's in college by extending the play like Cheeseburger does for the Steelers. However, RGIII also has the accuracy and judgement under pressure of Drew Brees. Very impressive.

    SO you tell me what's missing?

    YES we need to find some seasoned lineman, but WE NEED AN ELITE QB with great judgement and one hell of a deep ball.
    "If only we could take the 90's D and our '03 O......there's our Superbowl" :(



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    Dick Vermeil once called Priest Holmes a poor man's Marshall Faulk...
    I love Priest but Faulk was the better RB.

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    As I said a couple of years ago...We need another WR that is a real threat on the outside but that still has not happened. We also need another RB of high caliber (Trent Richardson of Alabama).

    We can get O linemen from FA along with a QB.

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    The real question will be where do we end up in the picking order? I think the top 4 QB's could very well be gone by the time it's our pick. If Luck goes to Indy I think RG3 will be a Redskin. If we are close enought we could have a chance at Jone or Barkley.

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