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    Some info about KO from a Purdue alum (1997-2004 when Drew Brees and Kyle Orton were in school).

    I agree with the general notion that KO is an above average NFL QB lacking the "it" factor, but I firmly believe he can become a great QB with "it", put in the right situation - pretty much true for every QB, unfortunately KO is still waiting for his.

    First of all, KO has all the tools, hardware and software. He was great in college (and high school). He's the only Purdue QB starting 4 bowl games, something Drew Brees, Bob Griese, and Len Dawson never did. KO started his senior year as a Heisman hopeful and considered by many the "surefire No.1 pick" for 2005 NFL draft, but in mid-season a few mishaps and injuries hit him, derailing Purdue's dream season and slipping him into late round.

    As a rookie, KO started 15 games for the Bears, going 10-5. He was asked to be a game manager behind a great defense and he did his job. Then Grossman the "franchise QB" came back from injuries. KO didn't start again until two years later, when Bears finally gave up on Grossman. In the first half of 2008 season, KO played great and was considered a MVP candidate (go googling if you didn't know that), but then the injury bug hit again, and the Bears defense lost 4 games in waning minutes (go look at those game recaps at ESPN) but all blames went to the QB... Traded to Denver off season. Started 6-0 in 2009, gaining loud praises, then somehow things went south. In 2010, KO played 13 games, 3500+ yards, 20 TDs, 9 INTs, 1 fumble, not as bad as people made him out to be. Those who call him a turnover machine are outright donkeys.

    Now, what has prevented KO from being "franchise"? He has adequate arm and accuracy. He has the intelligence to read and beat defense. He's a hard worker with leadership (at Denver he's a captain elected by his teammates). Nobody can deny those. The only thing he has lacked is consistent support from higher up, not killer instinct. Having someone constantly looking over your shoulder, having your coaches constantly doubting backstabbing you either because you were drafted low and cheap or they are looking for a scapegoat, is not something many QBs can overcome, and you will get conservative and hesitative in your play, which in turn can affect your confidence and consistency. KO was not this way in college at all. He was as much a gunslinger as Drew Brees (that being said, very few people on this planet are as mentally tough as Brees).

    I think KO and KC are a perfect match in element and style. Give him a commitment, let him go loose, and you will get a Len Dawson II in return. I'm sure of it.

    Fans always get excited about drafting a new QB, but always ready to ignore the truth of the matter in drafting a QB. This year nobody other than Andrew Luck is much beyond the likes of Leahart, Quinn, Young, Russell, Carr, fans certainly forgot fast how highly touted those guys were out of college. As a matter of fact, most Saints fans in 2006 wanted Young or wanted to wait for Quinn the next year, there you have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbolan View Post
    I am considered old but I want the young, old and in between! Haha!!
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    Young is great! In between is good. My own age.....meah....not so much. As my 11 year younger 3rd wife once said...."Men age so much better than women!"

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    He kindof reminds me of Tom Green with jim carreys "dumb and dumber" haircut. That boy loves him some Jack Daniels...

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    Quote Originally Posted by figcrostic View Post
    I've never heard so many men focusing on how attractive another man is, it's a little disturbing.... This is a football forum right?
    I never said how attractive he was...I was just say how his face kinda creeps me out.
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    I still don't believe Kyle is that great. He just needs to manage games and I think we should get Charles back and be a running team first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by figcrostic View Post
    I've never heard so many men focusing on how attractive another man is, it's a little disturbing.... This is a football forum right?
    It seems to me that most people are focusing on how ugly Orton is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCraised View Post
    That boy loves him some Jack Daniels...
    Nothing wrong with JD!

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    OMG. Come on guys, please tell me this thread is just a very bed Christmas gag gift. This is what I like to call the "Kyle Orton Effect." He has above average qualities in many throwing areas, but the one thing that he has absolutely nothing in is the "IT" area that TopekaRoy actually said he has. This guy is the most uninspiring trash bag on any football team. As a Chiefs fan who covers the Broncos, I know first hand about Kyle Orton and the guy is a loser. You don't want him nowhere near your team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy Tek View Post
    I know first hand about Kyle Orton and the guy is a loser. You don't want him nowhere near your team.
    As a rookie with the Bears Orton was 9-4 including and 8 game winning streak. The first thing he does after getting traded to the Broncos is win 6 games in a row. His first game with the 5-8 Kansas City Chiefs is a win over the undefeated 13-0 defending Super Bowl Champion Green Bay Packers.

    That's the kind of loser I want at quarterback.


    Oh, BTW" "You don't want him nowhere" is a double negative. It means you do want him somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan View Post
    Nothing wrong with JD!
    I know thats right...lol.
    Ive switched over to Jim Beam now. Switch it up for awhile:-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by boiler01 View Post
    Some info about KO from a Purdue alum (1997-2004 when Drew Brees and Kyle Orton were in school).

    I agree with the general notion that KO is an above average NFL QB lacking the "it" factor, but I firmly believe he can become a great QB with "it", put in the right situation - pretty much true for every QB, unfortunately KO is still waiting for his.

    First of all, KO has all the tools, hardware and software. He was great in college (and high school). He's the only Purdue QB starting 4 bowl games, something Drew Brees, Bob Griese, and Len Dawson never did. KO started his senior year as a Heisman hopeful and considered by many the "surefire No.1 pick" for 2005 NFL draft, but in mid-season a few mishaps and injuries hit him, derailing Purdue's dream season and slipping him into late round.

    As a rookie, KO started 15 games for the Bears, going 10-5. He was asked to be a game manager behind a great defense and he did his job. Then Grossman the "franchise QB" came back from injuries. KO didn't start again until two years later, when Bears finally gave up on Grossman. In the first half of 2008 season, KO played great and was considered a MVP candidate (go googling if you didn't know that), but then the injury bug hit again, and the Bears defense lost 4 games in waning minutes (go look at those game recaps at ESPN) but all blames went to the QB... Traded to Denver off season. Started 6-0 in 2009, gaining loud praises, then somehow things went south. In 2010, KO played 13 games, 3500+ yards, 20 TDs, 9 INTs, 1 fumble, not as bad as people made him out to be. Those who call him a turnover machine are outright donkeys.

    Now, what has prevented KO from being "franchise"? He has adequate arm and accuracy. He has the intelligence to read and beat defense. He's a hard worker with leadership (at Denver he's a captain elected by his teammates). Nobody can deny those. The only thing he has lacked is consistent support from higher up, not killer instinct. Having someone constantly looking over your shoulder, having your coaches constantly doubting backstabbing you either because you were drafted low and cheap or they are looking for a scapegoat, is not something many QBs can overcome, and you will get conservative and hesitative in your play, which in turn can affect your confidence and consistency. KO was not this way in college at all. He was as much a gunslinger as Drew Brees (that being said, very few people on this planet are as mentally tough as Brees).

    I think KO and KC are a perfect match in element and style. Give him a commitment, let him go loose, and you will get a Len Dawson II in return. I'm sure of it.

    Fans always get excited about drafting a new QB, but always ready to ignore the truth of the matter in drafting a QB. This year nobody other than Andrew Luck is much beyond the likes of Leahart, Quinn, Young, Russell, Carr, fans certainly forgot fast how highly touted those guys were out of college. As a matter of fact, most Saints fans in 2006 wanted Young or wanted to wait for Quinn the next year, there you have it.
    Kyle is one of the best there is since I have been watching him since kyle was drafted by the bears. Its very nice to see him hook up with thomas jones once again on the same team ! ( no offense to jamal charles ) Kyle can hang in with the best in the nfl and when things are clicking with the offense, kyle can light it up big time and move the chains in a big hurry. Im glad to see how the defense keeps the chiefs in the game as well. Despite the INTs orton threw i think kyle would have won last sundays game if palmer didnt throw the 50 yd + pass for a fg win.

    keep the faith and go chiefs !

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