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    Career stats
    Cassel 59% 11,699 yards 76td's 45int 169.6 ypg 82.5 rate passes 20+ yards 139 40+ yards 23
    Orton 58.3% 14,532 yards 80td's 50int 204.7pg 79.4 rate passes 20+ yards 174 40+ yards 31

    Last 3 games
    Cassel 52.4 607 yards 2td's 2int 202 ypg rate 69.4 sks 12
    Orton 60.8% 779 yards 1td 2int 260 ypg 81.1 rate sks 1

    Against the same opponents as a Chief 2011/12 season
    (Denver and Raiders)
    Cassel 48.2% 254 yards 1td 2int 52.4 rate 2sks 1 win
    Orton 55% 480 yards 1td 2int 71 rate 1sks 1 win

    This is a lot of work so if anyone wants to help out I'm all for it, I'm going to next look at how they both performed against top 5 pass defenses but I have some things to do today, so It might take awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    Forget Orton and Cassel...lets go get Matt Flynn from the Packers!!
    With a good offense line and receivers he could do well here....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    Forget Orton and Cassel...lets go get Matt Flynn from the Packers!!
    Very risky move and if he doesn't pan out Pioli would be out the door, I doubt he goes for Flynn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figcrostic View Post
    Very risky move and if he doesn't pan out Pioli would be out the door, I doubt he goes for Flynn.
    My opinion would be to keep either Cassl or Orton, build the O and D lines. Either one of them with a running game and a real good line would be okay. I also would rather that we went after Manning if we were to go after any one.

    I have stated before that I was against going for him-age etc. but after thinking about it, Manning and our receivers would work-key is to have a real good line to protect him. He has two or three years left,(as long as the neck heals) and who better for Stanzi to apprentice under?


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    Quote Originally Posted by AkChief49 View Post
    My opinion would be to keep either Cassl or Orton, build the O and D lines. Either one of them with a running game and a real good line would be okay. I also would rather that we went after Manning if we were to go after any one.

    I have stated before that I was against going for him-age etc. but after thinking about it, Manning and our receivers would work-key is to have a real good line to protect him. He has two or three years left,(as long as the neck heals) and who better for Stanzi to apprentice under?
    He had me til I read the second paragraph no to Manning, yes to building our line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    and we go 7-9 again
    Ill bet whatever u want that we arent 7 and 9 next yr. Whatever u want. Im not scared not one bit. In fact ill bet u we win a playoff gane if not two....

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    I agree, atleast orton can make reads and hit WR. Cassel seems to lock onto one guy whoever is the first option. We seem to move the ball better with orton, the timing in the red zone will get there with practice and reps with his WR
    I do think getting Charles back will help out red zone offense greatly too!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    I do think getting Charles back will help out red zone offense greatly too!!
    And building up the offensive line...

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    Quote Originally Posted by okikcfan View Post
    And building up the offensive line...
    This absolutely(either FA or draft) has to happen. The rest of it will fall into place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    Im sorry, but are you seriously giving Orton the credit for that win?? 4 times in the red Zone and came away with 3 FGs. The defense won that game despite the QB not because of him.

    Stats that matter...

    Orton scored 19, 13 and 7 points in his 3 games and won 2 of them mostly due to the defense.

    The only difference I can see between Cassel and Orton is that Orton keeps the offense out on the field long enough to give the defense a rest. Other than that they are both average at best!!
    He only had one WR that was a target threat. Too easy to double cover Bowe in the red zone.

    No running attack to punch it in either.

    Just sayin....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbolan View Post
    He only had one WR that was a target threat. Too easy to double cover Bowe in the red zone.

    No running attack to punch it in either.

    Just sayin....
    So that makes him good? He hit 10 different receivers in that game. He had plenty of options to throw to.


    And if we are still comparing him to Cassel, the same thing can be said!!
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