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    If you haven't been around long, then you probably don't know... I try to do one of these "offseason plans" at the end of each offseason. I usually do a mock free agency along with a mock draft based on the assumption that I get the guys I want.

    A little about my philosophy: In free agency, I want younger talent. I'm looking for guys who are coming off their rookie contract or looking for their 3rd contract at the most... anyone older than 28 has to be a special talent with proven longevity, a good locker room presence, and willing to be a mentor.

    In the draft, I use the first 2-4 rounds as an extension of free agency. Any holes I haven't plugged in free agency, I try to address in the first 3 rounds of the draft. After the 3rd round, I'm usually looking for the best player on the board... someone with raw ability who can be groomed to be a starter in the future.

    So, let's get started.

    Starting with our own free agents:

    Re-signed UFA:
    Kyle Orton- Has shown to be a better QB than Matt Cassel and if nothing else, will provide Cassel some healthy competition going into camp. Doubt there's another team out there willing to hand the keys over to Orton, but you never know.

    La'Ron McClain-We need a good FB with some running ability with the kind of run game the Chiefs expect to have. I thought he was a great sign in 2011 and didn't get to show what he brings to the table as a FB with the early loss of Charles. Probably could've been a pro bowl option for the AFC if he was properly utilized in front of Charles.

    Wallace Gilberry- Probably won't cost too much to keep in the OLB/DE rotation. Gilberry is a depth guy the Chiefs should hold on to.

    Jon McGraw-Another good depth guy that provides a lot on special teams as well.

    Brandon Carr- (*franchise tag if needed) the guy is on his way to elite status and locking him up opposite Flowers on the other side, the Chiefs will be 3/4 set in their primary defensive secondary.

    Letting Walk:
    Thomas Jones- Didn't provide much in 2012 and another year older won't help his cause.

    Dwayne Bowe- While he has all the tools to be an elite WR, to me, he just hasn't put it all together... whether it be a poor OC, HC, or QB play, he just doesn't scream ELITE to me and although it is a tough decision, I'd prefer to spend money elsewhere.

    Free Agents Signed:
    OG-Carl Nicks/Ben Grubbs- One way or another, we need to replace Wiegman in 2012 and Lilja in 13. Signing one of the top OGs on the market would go a long way in helping to solidify this young, talented Oline... just need a RT after that.

    S-LaRon Landry-I don't think I'm the only one who was disgusted with our safety play in 2011. A lot of that had to do with injuries. However, there's no one on this roster capable of playing FS at a high level. Sticking Landry in a defensive backfield with the killer Bs would be the perfect fit for another ball hawk who can rely on his all-pro teammates to do their jobs. (others include Brandon Meriweather who was drafted by Pioli, Michael Griffin, Reggie Nelson)

    WR-Reggie Wayne- Who better to show Baldwin how to be a pro? Wayne still has a few elite seasons left in him and that should be more than enough for the Chiefs to draft and groom his replacement sometime in the future. I'd rather spend money on Wayne and draft another WR than spend "elite WR" money on Bowe and his persona.

    TE-Mercedes Lewis- Elite TE talent. If he isn't slapped with the franchise tag, he should be a top priority for this team. I really like Moeaki, but he came into the league with concerns about his health and 2011 showed those concerns to be valid. Lewis is 27 and has missed 3 games in 6 seasons... The lack of depth on this team was painfully obvious in 2011 and an upgrade at the #2 TE is warranted... whether it be Moeaki or Lewis.

    NT-Paul Soliai- Is there any question that the Chiefs need to address their NT position? Gregg isn't the long-term answer there... and neither is Soliai... but he's a much better stop-gap until one can be drafted and groomed than Gregg.

    Keeping an eye on:
    LB Jon Beason
    OG Jeremy Zuttah

    Trade Glenn Dorsey to New England for pick #30.

    Now, the draft:
    1-ILB- Vontaze Burfict- The Chiefs have Hali, Johnson, and now the impressive rookie Justin Houston in their LB corp... add the extremely talented, nasty, and sometimes TOO aggressive Burfict to the group and you could have a top 5 group to go along with a top 5 secondary.

    1-NT- Dontari Poe- FINALLY the Chiefs get a NT to anchor their D-line. There's nothing Pioli is going to do with Tyson Jackson. He's on the DL for better or worse. He can do something about the miscast Glenn Dorsey who he traded to NE for this pick who will utilize Dorsey better in a 4-3 system.

    2-OT- Zebrie Sanders- Played both LT and RT at FSU and will immediately be capable of replacing Richardson at RT.

    3-RB- Cyrus Gray- An injury during his senior campaign allows us to grab him with our fourth pick in the draft. This guy has elite capabilities and if he does, indeed fall this far, the Chiefs will be in the running for "steal of the draft."

    4-WR- Jeff Fuller- Not sure why he's predicted to fall this far. He'd be higher on my draft board than just the 4th round, but here's where I start taking the best available players. I see inconsistencies and a couple minor injuries as the excuse, but this guy is the real deal and could blossom at the next level.

    5-RB- LaMichael James- Probably a little small to be featured as the primary ball carrier, but my feeling toward players in the draft is that if they are making plays and names for themselves at the college level, they're at least worth a look in the latter rounds of the draft. With Battle doing very little to prove himself to be capable of carrying the load and the expected exit of Thomas Jones, getting Gray and James to come in and back up Charles would provide some great depth for this team that is expected to have an elite running game.

    5(trade up from round 6)-WR Ryan Swope- The Chiefs are still looking for that true slot receiver and Swope is this year's annual "second coming of Wes Welker."

    7-FB- Cody Johnson- McClain probably won't be here forever and this guy is a freakin tank who doesn't know how to lose yardage. Hand this guy the ball and the pile moves at least 2-3 yards. A PHENOMENAL short-yardage back that can help drives continue and solve those pesky red zone issues.

    *quick note... I HATE Texas A&M... not sure why I have 3 of their players in my mock... however, if we could get them in those spots, I'd pull the trigger asap.

    Recap:
    QB-Orton, Cassel, Stanzi
    RB-Charles, Gray, James
    FB-McClain, Johnson
    WR-Wayne, Baldwin, Breaston, Fuller, Swope
    TE-Lewis, Moeaki
    LT-Albert
    LG-Nicks
    C-Hudson
    RG-Lilja
    RT-Sanders

    SS-Berry
    FS-Landry
    CB-Flowers, Carr
    ILB-Burfict, Johnson
    OLB-Hali, Houston
    NT-Paul Soliai, Poe, Powe,
    DE-Jackson, Gilberry, Bailey, Gordon



    In summation, I don't think targeting a select few free agents is out of the question. I picked 5 and the team could probably get by just fine without the additions of Lewis and Wayne and could even get by without Soliai if they were able to get a NT early in the draft. However, a Nicks/Grubbs type interior OL is absolutely necessary this spring IMO. Both Baltimore and New Orleans have some big names up for free agency this season... namely Drew Brees and Ray Rice that will prevent them from franchising these two guys. Go hard and heavy after both of them and take whoever signs first.

    I know there's gonna be some gnashing of teeth over the Bowe decision, but I think Brandon Carr is more important and would rather reserve the franchise tag for him. The Chiefs have the cap room to sign Bowe and will probably do everything they can to keep him. I just don't know that I would put so many eggs in his basket. Is he REALLY going to be that elite guy you can count on to make that big catch? Don't get me wrong, he's talented and makes some great catches... but he also makes some really poor mistakes and seems to let his ego get in his way at times. Not sure that's the guy I want Baldwin emulating.

    I'm excited by what I've seen from Gordon, Bailey, Gilberry, and Powe this season... not to mention Houston. This 2011 draft class for the Chiefs is going to be one we look back on and say "we need more of that kind of draft class." I was thrilled with the draft in April and even more excited after seeing so many of them perform at an above average level during their rookie seasons. I'm a BIG "defense first" kind of guy. Getting a guy like Burfict who could be our Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher... our unquestioned leader and QB of the defense is something I've been desperate for the Chiefs to bring on for the past decade. Getting a bonafide NT to anchor the D-Line is something else I've been screaming for since the decision was made clear that the Chiefs were headed in a 3-4 direction... and here I am again... 4th offseason in a row and saying the same thing.

    It's nice to finally be in position with this franchise where we can start talking about depth instead of trying to just purely plug holes with warm bodies.

    Hope y'all enjoyed the read.

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    Where is Palko? I can't seem to find him on your list. But then again you did not list water boys.










    This would make the chiefs a better team.

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    Wow Texas, rather impressive, nice work....

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    There is absolutely no way we get a 1st round pick for Dorsey. If we could I'd trade him away in a heart beat. One of the problems I have with the draft is that you have us letting go of Bowe because of inconsistencies but then want to draft a guy that should have gone earlier in the draft but dropped due to injuries and....inconsistency. We're trading a guy that might blossom and is a rookie for one that we know what we have.

    My only other problem with the draft is picking Burfict. He's had personal foul problems, under achieved in 2011 which questions his work ethic, had academic problems his entire sophomore year. It seems like the guy has lived off his athletic talent and isn't willing to put in the work. If we pick up Burfict in the draft I'll be extremely disappointed.

    Overall its an interesting scenario and a good read! Thx for putting it together.

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    Im intrigued by the idea of trading Dorsey. I think we probably could get a late 1st/ early 2nd for him. The only problem I have is do you have Bailey and Gordon filling his spot? I know they have made some plays in the pass game, but I havent been able to watch closely enough to see if they are in on run downs and how effective they have been in stuffing the run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    If you haven't been around long, then you probably don't know... I try to do one of these "offseason plans" at the end of each offseason. I usually do a mock free agency along with a mock draft based on the assumption that I get the guys I want.

    A little about my philosophy: In free agency, I want younger talent. I'm looking for guys who are coming off their rookie contract or looking for their 3rd contract at the most... anyone older than 28 has to be a special talent with proven longevity, a good locker room presence, and willing to be a mentor.

    In the draft, I use the first 2-4 rounds as an extension of free agency. Any holes I haven't plugged in free agency, I try to address in the first 3 rounds of the draft. After the 3rd round, I'm usually looking for the best player on the board... someone with raw ability who can be groomed to be a starter in the future.

    So, let's get started.

    Starting with our own free agents:

    Re-signed UFA:
    Kyle Orton- Has shown to be a better QB than Matt Cassel and if nothing else, will provide Cassel some healthy competition going into camp. Doubt there's another team out there willing to hand the keys over to Orton, but you never know.

    La'Ron McClain-We need a good FB with some running ability with the kind of run game the Chiefs expect to have. I thought he was a great sign in 2011 and didn't get to show what he brings to the table as a FB with the early loss of Charles. Probably could've been a pro bowl option for the AFC if he was properly utilized in front of Charles.

    Wallace Gilberry- Probably won't cost too much to keep in the OLB/DE rotation. Gilberry is a depth guy the Chiefs should hold on to.

    Jon McGraw-Another good depth guy that provides a lot on special teams as well.

    Brandon Carr- (*franchise tag if needed) the guy is on his way to elite status and locking him up opposite Flowers on the other side, the Chiefs will be 3/4 set in their primary defensive secondary.

    Letting Walk:
    Thomas Jones- Didn't provide much in 2012 and another year older won't help his cause.

    Dwayne Bowe- While he has all the tools to be an elite WR, to me, he just hasn't put it all together... whether it be a poor OC, HC, or QB play, he just doesn't scream ELITE to me and although it is a tough decision, I'd prefer to spend money elsewhere.

    Free Agents Signed:
    OG-Carl Nicks/Ben Grubbs- One way or another, we need to replace Wiegman in 2012 and Lilja in 13. Signing one of the top OGs on the market would go a long way in helping to solidify this young, talented Oline... just need a RT after that.

    S-LaRon Landry-I don't think I'm the only one who was disgusted with our safety play in 2011. A lot of that had to do with injuries. However, there's no one on this roster capable of playing FS at a high level. Sticking Landry in a defensive backfield with the killer Bs would be the perfect fit for another ball hawk who can rely on his all-pro teammates to do their jobs. (others include Brandon Meriweather who was drafted by Pioli, Michael Griffin, Reggie Nelson)

    WR-Reggie Wayne- Who better to show Baldwin how to be a pro? Wayne still has a few elite seasons left in him and that should be more than enough for the Chiefs to draft and groom his replacement sometime in the future. I'd rather spend money on Wayne and draft another WR than spend "elite WR" money on Bowe and his persona.

    TE-Mercedes Lewis- Elite TE talent. If he isn't slapped with the franchise tag, he should be a top priority for this team. I really like Moeaki, but he came into the league with concerns about his health and 2011 showed those concerns to be valid. Lewis is 27 and has missed 3 games in 6 seasons... The lack of depth on this team was painfully obvious in 2011 and an upgrade at the #2 TE is warranted... whether it be Moeaki or Lewis.

    NT-Paul Soliai- Is there any question that the Chiefs need to address their NT position? Gregg isn't the long-term answer there... and neither is Soliai... but he's a much better stop-gap until one can be drafted and groomed than Gregg.

    Keeping an eye on:
    LB Jon Beason
    OG Jeremy Zuttah

    Trade Glenn Dorsey to New England for pick #30.

    Now, the draft:
    1-ILB- Vontaze Burfict- The Chiefs have Hali, Johnson, and now the impressive rookie Justin Houston in their LB corp... add the extremely talented, nasty, and sometimes TOO aggressive Burfict to the group and you could have a top 5 group to go along with a top 5 secondary.

    1-NT- Dontari Poe- FINALLY the Chiefs get a NT to anchor their D-line. There's nothing Pioli is going to do with Tyson Jackson. He's on the DL for better or worse. He can do something about the miscast Glenn Dorsey who he traded to NE for this pick who will utilize Dorsey better in a 4-3 system.

    2-OT- Zebrie Sanders- Played both LT and RT at FSU and will immediately be capable of replacing Richardson at RT.

    3-RB- Cyrus Gray- An injury during his senior campaign allows us to grab him with our fourth pick in the draft. This guy has elite capabilities and if he does, indeed fall this far, the Chiefs will be in the running for "steal of the draft."

    4-WR- Jeff Fuller- Not sure why he's predicted to fall this far. He'd be higher on my draft board than just the 4th round, but here's where I start taking the best available players. I see inconsistencies and a couple minor injuries as the excuse, but this guy is the real deal and could blossom at the next level.

    5-RB- LaMichael James- Probably a little small to be featured as the primary ball carrier, but my feeling toward players in the draft is that if they are making plays and names for themselves at the college level, they're at least worth a look in the latter rounds of the draft. With Battle doing very little to prove himself to be capable of carrying the load and the expected exit of Thomas Jones, getting Gray and James to come in and back up Charles would provide some great depth for this team that is expected to have an elite running game.

    5(trade up from round 6)-WR Ryan Swope- The Chiefs are still looking for that true slot receiver and Swope is this year's annual "second coming of Wes Welker."

    7-FB- Cody Johnson- McClain probably won't be here forever and this guy is a freakin tank who doesn't know how to lose yardage. Hand this guy the ball and the pile moves at least 2-3 yards. A PHENOMENAL short-yardage back that can help drives continue and solve those pesky red zone issues.

    *quick note... I HATE Texas A&M... not sure why I have 3 of their players in my mock... however, if we could get them in those spots, I'd pull the trigger asap.

    Recap:
    QB-Orton, Cassel, Stanzi
    RB-Charles, Gray, James
    FB-McClain, Johnson
    WR-Wayne, Baldwin, Breaston, Fuller, Swope
    TE-Lewis, Moeaki
    LT-Albert
    LG-Nicks
    C-Hudson
    RG-Lilja
    RT-Sanders

    SS-Berry
    FS-Landry
    CB-Flowers, Carr
    ILB-Burfict, Johnson
    OLB-Hali, Houston
    NT-Paul Soliai, Poe, Powe,
    DE-Jackson, Gilberry, Bailey, Gordon



    In summation, I don't think targeting a select few free agents is out of the question. I picked 5 and the team could probably get by just fine without the additions of Lewis and Wayne and could even get by without Soliai if they were able to get a NT early in the draft. However, a Nicks/Grubbs type interior OL is absolutely necessary this spring IMO. Both Baltimore and New Orleans have some big names up for free agency this season... namely Drew Brees and Ray Rice that will prevent them from franchising these two guys. Go hard and heavy after both of them and take whoever signs first.

    I know there's gonna be some gnashing of teeth over the Bowe decision, but I think Brandon Carr is more important and would rather reserve the franchise tag for him. The Chiefs have the cap room to sign Bowe and will probably do everything they can to keep him. I just don't know that I would put so many eggs in his basket. Is he REALLY going to be that elite guy you can count on to make that big catch? Don't get me wrong, he's talented and makes some great catches... but he also makes some really poor mistakes and seems to let his ego get in his way at times. Not sure that's the guy I want Baldwin emulating.

    I'm excited by what I've seen from Gordon, Bailey, Gilberry, and Powe this season... not to mention Houston. This 2011 draft class for the Chiefs is going to be one we look back on and say "we need more of that kind of draft class." I was thrilled with the draft in April and even more excited after seeing so many of them perform at an above average level during their rookie seasons. I'm a BIG "defense first" kind of guy. Getting a guy like Burfict who could be our Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher... our unquestioned leader and QB of the defense is something I've been desperate for the Chiefs to bring on for the past decade. Getting a bonafide NT to anchor the D-Line is something else I've been screaming for since the decision was made clear that the Chiefs were headed in a 3-4 direction... and here I am again... 4th offseason in a row and saying the same thing.

    It's nice to finally be in position with this franchise where we can start talking about depth instead of trying to just purely plug holes with warm bodies.

    Hope y'all enjoyed the read.
    Like the wish list, but seems a little far fetched. We have cap space, but I just think it's highly unlikely to land all of the big name free agents you have listed.

    Would love to land Grubbs or Nicks for LG, to be honest, if we land one of these guys, it will warrant a big contract, I thikn Nicks is more likely to leave his current team, because the Saints have already locked up their other OG Jahari Evans to big money, and probably can't afford to pay both OG's big dollars.

    Landry doesn't seem likely, plus he is a Strong Saftey, not a Free Safetry (BIG Difference as far as body build, speed and mentality) Landry will want to start wherever he goes, Berry is our SS for the forseable Future, so I think that leaves little room to give a big contract (which it will take) to one of the top SS's in the league, I think Merriweather (Which is a Free Saftey), is a possibility because of the Pioli connection, and the fact that he was in a rotational/backup role in Chicago and might not have the issue with not being the "starter".

    Not sure I like the idea of getting rid of Dorsey instead of Jackson, to be honest, I think both are still here next year, and both don't get enough credit for their improved play over the last 2 seasons. With that said, I think it would be more likely to see us land a NT in the draft rather than a Soliai.

    Basically I'm just thinking that I do agree we will be active in Free agency this offseason, but almost every acquisition you have in this list would take a lot of cash to bring in. Just not sure we could afford it. I think you can count on us landing at least 1 impact Free agent on either side of the ball that is capable of coming in and starting, and then the other free agents will be role player/depth signings.

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    I would love to see Wayne brought in. But I think we need to keep Bowe. He has talent and he's still a young player. He might be able to learn something from a Wayne. It would be nice to have anther Real good weapon on offense. It would also give someone eles for Baldwin to learn from. I would love to see him brought in but I really don't see that happening.
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    Well I don't know about Burfict he has a lot against him. He predicted to be 2nd-3rd round so why take in the 11/12th pick?
    Must improve: Burfict must do a better job of taking on blockers with better leverage and use of his hands. He must focus on wrapping up and making tackles and cut down on sloppy misses. Burfict also must keep his emotions under control because he'll get tested by opponents trying to frustrate him and get him to snap.
    He's also a liability covering tight ends in man-to-man and struggles to get deep — a requirement for middle linebackers in most 4-3 schemes.


    Projected draft position: Burfict has been rumored to be a late first-round pick. While that is possible, we believe hes most likely will be a second- or third-round pick by a team that has a history of handling players who come into the NFL with baggage


    Read the full report on him.

    Fox Sports mock has us taking RB Trent Richardson which sound good to me.

    11. Kansas City Chiefs*: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: The Chiefs lost Jamaal Charles in the second week of the 2011 NFL season, and the offense never rebounded. Charles should be back and healthy next season, but Richardson is the rare running back talent who can completely change an offense. The way this mock draft has unfolded, he’ll be slipping out of the Top 10 — something few scouts or experts expect. A different type of back from Charles, the two could work together to form a dynamic duo in the Kansas City backfield. Though Charles signed a five-year, $32 million extension in 2010, he’s not making the Adrian Peterson/Chris Johnson money you might expect. Richardson, a between-the-tackles grinder, is viewed as a much better pro prospect than his former teammate, Mark Ingram. In the rough-and-tumble AFC West, I love the thought of a Charles-Richardson platoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    I would love to see Wayne brought in. But I think we need to keep Bowe. He has talent and he's still a young player. He might be able to learn something from a Wayne. It would be nice to have anther Real good weapon on offense. It would also give someone eles for Baldwin to learn from. I would love to see him brought in but I really don't see that happening.
    I think you could see Wayne wind up in New England. He is a talents WR who unlike Ochocinco has proven he can handle a complicated system (with Peyton Manning)

    I think Wayne would more likely go to a NE because of the idea that he would feel he could contend for another SB rather than looking for the big contract.

    I think the Chiefs will be a competitive team next year, but I'm not sure that they are view yet as a playoff contender across the league. (Although I think we will make it to the playoffs)

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    Quote Originally Posted by N TX Dave View Post
    Well I don't know about Burfict he has a lot against him. He predicted to be 2nd-3rd round so why take in the 11/12th pick?
    Must improve: Burfict must do a better job of taking on blockers with better leverage and use of his hands. He must focus on wrapping up and making tackles and cut down on sloppy misses. Burfict also must keep his emotions under control because he'll get tested by opponents trying to frustrate him and get him to snap.
    He's also a liability covering tight ends in man-to-man and struggles to get deep ó a requirement for middle linebackers in most 4-3 schemes.


    Projected draft position: Burfict has been rumored to be a late first-round pick. While that is possible, we believe hes most likely will be a second- or third-round pick by a team that has a history of handling players who come into the NFL with baggage


    Read the full report on him.

    Fox Sports mock has us taking RB Trent Richardson which sound good to me.

    11. Kansas City Chiefs*: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: The Chiefs lost Jamaal Charles in the second week of the 2011 NFL season, and the offense never rebounded. Charles should be back and healthy next season, but Richardson is the rare running back talent who can completely change an offense. The way this mock draft has unfolded, heíll be slipping out of the Top 10 ó something few scouts or experts expect. A different type of back from Charles, the two could work together to form a dynamic duo in the Kansas City backfield. Though Charles signed a five-year, $32 million extension in 2010, heís not making the Adrian Peterson/Chris Johnson money you might expect. Richardson, a between-the-tackles grinder, is viewed as a much better pro prospect than his former teammate, Mark Ingram. In the rough-and-tumble AFC West, I love the thought of a Charles-Richardson platoon.
    This is the one thing that I like so much about this draft. There are so many guys that we can take and I won't be upset about. Trade up, trade down or just select. Reiff, Martin, DeCastro, Richardson, RG3 and the golden goose Luck. Right there are 6 guys that I would be extremely happy to pick up and we're picking 11/12th. Very exciting this year and I'll be interested to see what we do.

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