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Thread: NFL Draft 2012: Do You Really Need to Take a Running Back Early?

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    Default NFL Draft 2012: Do You Really Need to Take a Running Back Early?

    The NFL has morphed into a passing league over the last few years, with Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady leading the charge. This season, three QBs passed for over 5,000 yards, and three tossed 45 or more TD passes. (Only two QBs have topped 40 TD passes in the last decade – Manning in 2004, Brady in 2007.) Which leads me to this question about the 2012 NFL draft: Despite a strong RB group, should you really burn a high pick on a running back?
    * In 2011, 3 WRs were drafted before the first RB was taken.
    * From 2009-2011, here are the RBs taken in the first round: Knowshon Moreno (Denver), Donald Brown (Indianapolis), Beanie Wells (Arizona), CJ Spiller (Buffalo), Ryan Mathews (San Diego), Jahvid Best (Detroit), and Mark Ingram (New Orleans).
    * You know what the last three NFL rushing champs have in common? They all missed the playoffs.
    * No running back in the top five for yardage the last two years was drafted in the first round.
    And before we get to the 2012 crop of RBs, check this out:
    Every RB who rushed for over 1,000 yards in 2011 and where they were drafted (I know 1,000 yards is arbitrary, but so is 1,100 or 1,200):
    Maurice Jones-Drew, 2nd round 60th overall 2006
    Ray Rice, 2nd round, 55th overall in 2008
    Michael Turner, 5th round, 154th overall in 2004
    LeSean McCoy, 2nd round, 53rd overall in 2009
    Arian Foster, undrafted
    Frank Gore 3rd round, 65th overall in 2005
    Marshawn Lynch, 1st round, 12th overall in 2007
    Willis McGahee, 1st round, 23rd overall in 2003
    Steven Jackson, 1st round, 24th overall in 2004
    Ryan Mathews, 1st round, 12th overall in 2010
    Reggie Bush, 1st round, 2nd overall in 2006
    Cedric Benson, 1st round, 4th overall in 2005
    Shonn Greene, 3rd round, 65th overall in 2009
    Chris Johnson, 1st round, 24th overall in 2008
    Beanie Wells, 1st round, 31st overall in 2009
    Every RB who rushed for over 1,000 yards in 2010
    Arian Foster
    Jamaal Charles, 3rd round, 73rd overall in 2008
    Michael Turner
    Chris Johnson
    Maurice Jones-Drew
    Adrian Peterson, 1st round, 7th overall in 2007
    Rashard Mendenhall, 1st round, 23rd overall in 2008
    Steven Jackson
    Ahmad Bradshaw 7th round, 250th overall in 2007
    Ray Rice
    Peyton Hillis CLE, 7th round, 227th overall in 2008
    Darren McFadden, 1st round, 4th overall in 2008
    Cedric Benson, 1st round, 4th overall in 2005
    LeSean McCoy
    Matt Forte, 2nd round, 44th overall in 2008
    BenJarvus Green-Ellis, undrafted
    LeGarrette Blount, undrafted
    Every RB who rushed for over 1,000 yards in 2009
    Chris Johnson
    Steven Jackson
    Thomas Jones, 1st round, 7th overall in 2000
    Maurice Jones-Drew
    Adrian Peterson
    Ray Rice
    Ryan Grant, undrafted
    Cedric Benson
    Jonathan Stewart, 1st round, 13th overall in 2008
    Ricky Williams, 1st round, 5th overall in 1999
    Frank Gore
    Jamaal Charles
    DeAngelo Williams, 1st round, 27th overall in 2006
    Rashard Mendenhall
    Fred Jackson, undrafted
    I love Alabama’s Trent Richardson as much as the next guy – I’ve had him top 10 in all three mock drafts – but with these figures in mind, do you really need to take him in the Top 5 or 10 or even 20? Given recent history, it doesn’t seem to make sense to grab a RB too early. My guess – with four months before the draft – is that there will be a run on the strong 2012 RB class starting in the second round, and maybe extend to the third. Here are a few guys you’ll be hearing about at next month’s combine (with best-case scenario NFL comp in parens):
    Lamar Miller, Miami, 5-11, 215, 4.42 40 time (MJD)
    David Wilson, Virginia Tech, 5-10, 205, 4.42 40 time (LeSean McCoy)
    Doug Martin, Boise State, 5-9, 210, 4.48 40 time (Ray Rice)
    Chris Polk, Washington, 5-11, 220, 4.48 40 time (Matt Forte)
    Isaiah Pead, Cincinnati, 5-10, 200, 4.42 40 time (Jamaal Charles)

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    offense, offense, offense!

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    Charles won't be 100%. Get Richardson. He is a beast with great hands as well.

    Seems the biggest issue has not been "which" pick we have but "who" we chose with the picks. Talent evaluation is the break down.

    Get another O-Lineman. Whatever but as much talent that is out there in FA and considering the money we have, there should not be ANY problem at all with filling our voids this off-season. No excuses, imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three7s View Post
    We don't need defense in the early rounds. All we need is depth, which can be found much later.
    I have to respectfully disagree. When Berry is healthy, he'll be terrific, but I'm not impressed with his counterpart. Until Houston produces, OLD would still be on the list for me, as is NT in regards to Powe. DJ works out in the middle, but he could use better help as well.

    I like an OL and Trent is the only RB I'd consider. I think WR is going to be ok without Cassel at QB and you don't take a TE @ 12. QB @ 12... I dunno - interesting to see who's there and I'm not a fan of RG3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanathol View Post
    I have to respectfully disagree. When Berry is healthy, he'll be terrific, but I'm not impressed with his counterpart. Until Houston produces, OLD would still be on the list for me, as is NT in regards to Powe. DJ works out in the middle, but he could use better help as well.

    I like an OL and Trent is the only RB I'd consider. I think WR is going to be ok without Cassel at QB and you don't take a TE @ 12. QB @ 12... I dunno - interesting to see who's there and I'm not a fan of RG3.
    Until Houston produces? Did you not even watch the last 5 games of the season? As for Lewis, he had no help from Sabby Pissthebeddy, so that's a little unfair to him. I agree about NT, but if we can get Soliai from Miami, that should be good enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three7s View Post
    Until Houston produces? Did you not even watch the last 5 games of the season? As for Lewis, he had no help from Sabby Pissthebeddy, so that's a little unfair to him. I agree about NT, but if we can get Soliai from Miami, that should be good enough.
    Houston had 7, 4, 4, 2, 7 tackles respectively and 3, 1, 0, 0, 1.5 sacks. The 3 sack game was vs the Bears - a team tied 5th for giving up the most sacks this season @ 49 - with Caleb Hanie at QB and Matt Forte out. For as much grief as Tyson gets, he had 4 tackles and a sackthis game... So given the choice to take Upshaw or put all my eggs in the Houston basket,I'd take Upshaw.

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    Read this artical that talks about 5 reasons why we should draft TR in the first. I tend to agree with you guys about a RB in the first but this makes a good case why we should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N TX Dave View Post
    Read this artical that talks about 5 reasons why we should draft TR in the first. I tend to agree with you guys about a RB in the first but this makes a good case why we should.

    Amen and AMEN!

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    Robert Griffin III anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChiefsFanTilDeath83 View Post
    Robert Griffin III anyone?
    He'll cost an arm and a leg to trade up to the #2 spot (from 11/12) to get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryfo18 View Post
    He'll cost an arm and a leg to trade up to the #2 spot (from 11/12) to get.
    Unless bowe is part of a draft day trade, he will warrant a first round pick bowe plus our first pick for stl first pick i dont know how the math works but that wouldnt be an arm and a leg maybe just a leg but id love to have rgiii.

    Alas this is the chiefs we gonna trade down and build the right 53 which im all for but wheres the excitement in that.

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