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I think I can agree with you on that...and I was going to until I realized he has only had 2 60+ catch seasons, it made me re-think it... He had his first really good season with 69 catches, and then the hold-out debacle took place, and it made think maybe the media surrounding him was created to generate buzz about him to get the big contract.
I could agree to put him up a tier though...
Precisely how many 1,000 yard seasons does Jordy Neslon have?
Miles Austin has two.... Barely. And one of those had all of 45 yards more than Lloyd's 2011, where he missed one game, and was limited in a couple more, due to a mid-season trade. And Lloyd can also sub,it a 733 yard season, well eclipsing anything Austin has to add.
Same with Nicks.... His second 1,000 yard season exceeds Lloyd's 2011 by a whopping 56 yards.
Then you could also take into consideration that Lloyd even had his starting QB pulled in 2010, for Tim Tebow.
Santonio Holmes only has one 1,000 yard season too.
As for The Patriots looking for a compliment to Welker, how has "HOF" Ocho done while being overshadowed by Welker?
Even the immortal Randy Moss had fewer receiving yards than Welker, during his stay, and for two of the three full seasons he spent there. And Moss really not even that close, in any of those seasons, to the number of catches Welker was making.
Wes Welker is a better WR than Randy Moss was with The Patriots.
He has had two seasons with over 120 catches. And only one, of his last five, with less than 1,000 Yards, and 100 catches.
He plays the position he does, because he is unstoppable at that position.
Teams are putting their best coverage guys on him, and he still had the best season of his career, and a far better season that best of many HoF WRs.
They are looking for someone to play the other WR position because they want someone to play that position. They are not looking for anybody to play Wes Welker's position.
I can agree with you that Nelson and Austin should not be on this list at all...I put them on there because I didn't want to deal with this kind of talk after I didn't put them on there....
I still don't agree that Lloyd should be on there....I'm sorry if he may be a firend of your's or something being that he is from the KC area...But you can't seriously say that if all of the 32 teams were given an option to add Hakeem Nicks or Brandon Lloyd they would choose Llyod (regardless of who the teams receiver is now) I bet you 9 times out of 10 a GM would choose to add Nicks...
I mentioned that Welker should be bumped up...He is a good slot receiver...But He lacks the size that franchises look for in a PROTOTYPICAL WR, and I question weather or not he could produce the same results in a less pass happy system than the Patriots...
Off of the argument....The post was meant to show that Bowe is a to 10-15 Receiver, and he should be paid like one... Weather or not Llyod, Austin, Nelson or Welker are on that list and where they are located is meaningless to the point.
I don't feel Llyod, Austin, and Nelson are even close the receiver that Bowe is...and Welker could post an argument..but even with that said, there is only about 5-8 total that could be argued as a better prospect based on size, speed, numbers, and consistency
I agree he's made some drops & misses he shouldn't have, but there could be many factors as to why, of which weren't his fault, nor completely his fault...or yes, all his fault. We really just don't know, only Bowe does. The bottom line is he still ranks among the top NFL WR's, over 1,000 yds. again in 2011, even during all the franchise drama & instability. I believe Haley could have spitefully ignored using him in game plan-playcalls, as well.
What hasn't been brought up in discussion to this point...is that not only does Bowe make incredible acrobatic catches, he also breaks tackles and as such was rated among the NFL's top WR's to do so.
Dwayne Bowe Led NFL In Broken Tackles Among Wide Receivers In 2011 - Barbecue Sauce - SB Nation Kansas City
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Otis Taylor was definitely our most legendary WR in Chiefs history, no doubt. That said, it's such a different game today, no way to really compare Otis to Bowe as such. So, more or less when I say I believe Bowe to be the best WR we've ever had, I'm referring to modern day NFL, and in general, or overall comparing ALL aspects, not just stats. ;)
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Completely agree, including that I love Kennison also! Still, overall comparsion Bowe in my humble opinion surpasses him, including Bowe being among the NFL's top WR's to break tackles. He's also one hell of a blocker helping clear routes for his teammates on occasion. He's STRONG in every way. He also was listed among the FEW NFL players who showed up for camp in 2011 fit, conditioned, and ready to play, which indicates he's determined & committed to being the best...staying in shape during the off season, and a lockout too. His not being injured in 2011 is a result of that off season/lockout dedication to stay in shape & conditioned, ready to go!
Last edited by Connie Jo; 01-25-2012 at 08:50 PM.
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