Manning refused to visit KC, Reliable source:

[Connie Jo]

The person who gives this information is associated with the Chiefs, highly respected. He is a very responsible person, and would not pass along bogus information. :)

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescri...x#.T11WxSMBYfM. facebook

I put a space between the . and facebook, hoping the link wouldn't show as an invalid one. Below is the link without the space. It usually works even though it may say invalid.

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescri...MBYfM.facebook

[jap1]

You think jones was a good pick up? Haha


I want you to compare Berry, Moaki, mccluster, succop and houston

How many of them are pro bowlers? Berry. 1 Guy. Why dont you compare those picks to Jamaal charles, Brandon flowers, Brandon carr and Dwayne Bowe

Matt what is it going to take? What is it going to take for you to see that we arent on the right track? What if we go 7-9 next year, what will you think then?

You realize that Moeaki had better receiving stats than Tony G did in his rookie year, and was considered an excellent blocker?

Houston is a rookie that missed the offseason training camps because of the lockout. Tamba Hali didnt look all too good in his rookie year.

Give it some time. I know you hate Pioli, but I dont think anyone can pass judgement that he is horrible in the draft.

[Ryfo18]

So by your logic Cassel was a Great pickup would you say that he went to a pro bowl. So he's a great pick up??????

Waiting for My Man Orton's response to this one.

His arguments consist of nothing more than rattling off "Pro Bowlers" that we didn't draft but could have. If a guy doesn't come out and go to the Pro Bowl in his rookie year, well he must be a bust!

By the way, Houston rated as the 2nd best OLB in the league according to ProFootballFocus in the last 8 games of the season. He was an excellent 3rd round pick.

[KCCF]

Waiting for My Man Orton's response to this one.

His arguments consist of nothing more than rattling off "Pro Bowlers" that we didn't draft but could have. If a guy doesn't come out and go to the Pro Bowl in his rookie year, well he must be a bust!

By the way, Houston rated as the 2nd best OLB in the league according to ProFootballFocus in the last 8 games of the season. He was an excellent 3rd round pick.

But they went to the pro bowl!!! They HAVE to be future HoFamers!!! Lol

[Canada]

But they went to the pro bowl!!! They HAVE to be future HoFamers!!! Lol

Hes using my man ortons logic...you seem to agree with him....sarcasm is all you can come up with?

[Canada]

The reason we lost it last year is because we sucked the worst in a crummy division and even if we had won the division, it would have been another "out in the first round" situation.

Can't be argued

Nope...unless someone pointed out that we lost to pit 13-9 with Palko and could have easily done what Denver did, but with Orton. Other than that...no...cant be argued

[dbolan]

Even the KC upper brass admitted to poor depth (in other words, poor choices) but for anyone else to say it, repeat it, or whatever, seems to be defamation.

Money does need to be spent. Other teams have done a shatty job of spending cash on big names that was there own POOR judgement. You can PAY the right people to fill the gaps and get to the top.

WE NEED:

QB competition
Another very good RB
OL HELP
Another WR
Defensive depth

[pojote]

Berry,Moaki,Houston,Mccluster,Succop, are mediocre?

Why you left out Hudson? why? whyyyyyy?

[Canada]

Even the KC upper brass admitted to poor depth (in other words, poor choices) but for anyone else to say it, repeat it, or whatever, seems to be defamation.

Money does need to be spent. Other teams have done a shatty job of spending cash on big names that was there own POOR judgement. You can PAY the right people to fill the gaps and get to the top.

WE NEED:

QB competition
Another very good RB
OL HELP
Another WR
Defensive depth

No one has a problem with people talking about team needs. Its that when people preface posts with hahaha...and then put their "constructive criticism" out there, it comes across as bashing. Or perhaps the fact that some people NEVER say anything good about these guys makes it seem like that person is "bashing the team" You look at our needs and we are no that far off considering we are 2 seasons removed from going 4-12. Rome was not built in a day, no matter how bad u want it to be. Name one other team in the NFL that has all their draft picks from the last three years on the team still.

[Canada]

And not spending a ton of $$ and rolling it over into this season is the main reason we have $60+ million available to spend. Its the reason we have a lot of our young talent locked up long term. Im glad they dont throw money at every FA available.

[Canada]

Haha you see what you get for not spending on FA and not wanting to upgrade your team? You get players that dont want to come here

^^See...people like this do not appear to be Chiefs fans to me. No matter how much they whine and complain.