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    Default The Decision II: I'm Taking my Talents to ...

    Everyone is waiting for Peyton Manning to decide which team he is going to take to the Super Bowl, this year. As a Bulls fan, I went through this a year and a half ago, when Lebron James became a free agent.

    Everyone was saying, "If James really wants to win Championships, he should sign with the Bulls." They had a young superstar in Derrick Rose and good talent around him with Joakim Noah and Luol Deng. Plus they had the cap room to add Dwyane Wade or Chris Bosh, or whoever else James wanted to play with.

    James didn't think that was enough. He wanted both Wade AND Bosh; so he took his talents to South Beach.

    So what was the result? Miami had to pay the big three so much money that they had no support for their star players and they still fell short of getting a ring.

    The Bulls on the other hand settled for Carlos Boozer. They went on to have the best regular season record in the NBA. Yes, they did lose to the Heat in the Eastern Conference finals, mostly due to cold shooting and Noah and Boozer both playing hurt. But they still were competitive and this year, despite a rash of injuries, they still have the best record in the NBA, again.

    Lebron was healthy. We don't have any idea whether Peyton will be able to play or not this year, but everyone thinks whoever gets him will win a Super Bowl. Never mind that in 12 healthy seasons with the Colts he only won one Super Bowl.

    The Chiefs are in a very similar position now to what the Bulls were in then. Like James, Manning is no guarantee that we would win it all. And like the Bulls, the Chiefs can win without him.

    It's starting to look like Manning will be taking his talents elsewhere. If that's what he wants, let him go. The Chiefs will be fine without him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    The result was IN HIS FIRST YEAR he went to the nba finals
    His first year was in Cleveland. They didn't go to NBA Finals. But I know what you are saying.

    You completely missed the point, though. Miami went to the Finals and lost to Dallas who didn't have Lebron. The Bulls, who didn't have Lebron either, actually won more games than Miami (and beat them 4 games to 1 in the regular season). They just happened to catch the Bulls at a bad time.

    Here's the point: The Chiefs can win without Manning, and having Manning doesn't guarantee a Super Bowl win.

    Subpoint: Lebron is the best basketball player in the NBA; Manning is injured.
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    I say he rejected us well I say good bye I won't miss you.

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    If Peyton don't want to come. Then we'll make him pay on the field. As for Cassel. I don't want to be stuck with him. I want a team that is prepared to replace him at any time during a game if we have too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    The result was IN HIS FIRST YEAR he went to the nba finals
    AND THEY LOST. They have the same amount of rings as the Bulls do 0

    But besides that your missing the point. A team loaded with stars faced off against a team that was made up of solid players but they had more depth. They battled pretty even in fact regular season and post season it was tied up 5 wins for each. One team just had a bit better timeing of when they got there wins. But that team not loaded with big name high priced guys was right there with the team loaded with stars. The point is There is not one way to build a team.
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    If PM does sign on a team in the AFC West. He better remember, there is a Tamba in that division! Pick wisely your future Peyton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayvern View Post
    Well, i really wanted to see KC get a real QBto lead this team.i have been a huge supporter of Cassel in the past and will continue to support him if he is the starter this season, but i seriously do not think Cassel is that guy anymore. Orton does nothing for me either. To win a super bowl, we need a better qb

    I feel your pain, but keep in mind there will be 21 other players starting on the same team. If our D plays to their potential, the Chiefs will NOT be playing from behind much. We will have some new faces on the OL and hopefully some competition for Cassel. Our run game should be much better and I think we will win a lot of games this year.

    He may not win many games, but the good thing about Cassel is he rarely looses the game for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70 chiefsfan70 View Post
    He may not win many games, but the good thing about Cassel is he rarely looses the game for us.
    Well, he loses games for us by not getting in the endzone and keeping our defense on the field for 45 minutes. Cassel is an average qb, a decent backup - nothing more. I may be proven wrong this season and hope I am - but I don't see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike View Post
    Well, he loses games for us by not getting in the endzone and keeping our defense on the field for 45 minutes. Cassel is an average qb, a decent backup - nothing more. I may be proven wrong this season and hope I am - but I don't see it.


    I'm NOT a Cassel fan and have been quite critical of him, but gee, give the man some credit when he is due.

    Cassel makes very few game loosing mistakes. Its not his fault Bowe drops balls, nor is his fault that the OL can't run block. Even a healthy Manning would look bad under the conditions this team suffered last year. A more mobile qb would have done ok.

    The Chiefs overpaid Cassel no doubt about it, but its not like we have turned away better options. We have too many needs to burn alot of cash and/or draft picks to get the kind of QB I would like to see here.

    We CAN win a lot of games with Cassel, we have a very good oportunity to sign some quality young FA and to draft what we can't fill thru FA. With the great run game and a much improved OL we can do it.

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    As much as I would like to see us with a real hotshot QB, I think it is more important this year to fill the remaining holes we have and get some depth. If we do a good job of that this year then we will win the division.

    Then next year we can work on making that blockbuster deal for a really good QB.

    Another thought.....Cassel has to know that he has been way overpaid for what he has produced and that when his contract expires he is not going to be getting that kind of money again unless he starts to really show some serious high level talent. I'm kind of expecting him to have a breakout season this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan View Post
    As much as I would like to see us with a real hotshot QB, I think it is more important this year to fill the remaining holes we have and get some depth. If we do a good job of that this year then we will win the division.

    Then next year we can work on making that blockbuster deal for a really good QB.

    Another thought.....Cassel has to know that he has been way overpaid for what he has produced and that when his contract expires he is not going to be getting that kind of money again unless he starts to really show some serious high level talent. I'm kind of expecting him to have a breakout season this year.
    I agree, but I think we can fill the holes and still get a hotshot QB. Not Manning, or Luck but still good.
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