A thought on Manning and the donkeys..

[m0ef0e]

Hey guys, it's been a long time since my last post. I hope every one is doing well.


I see a lot of people talking about what will happen if Manning gets hurt.. In other words, how the Broncos will look stupid, be screwed with no QB, etc.

However, given the recent track record of the donk's fan base/front office as to how they treat QB's in Denver, do you think it could be an even worse situation for Manning if he comes out showing a little rust or worse yet: has pretty much lost his touch? Could we see billboards clamoring for Caleb Hanie (or whoever they sign as a backup) as the starting QB by week 6?

[#58ChiefsFan]

1) I think 10 full contact games in the regular season would keep our guys in practice. 2) If playing easier teams in the year isn't a benefit, then why do losing teams get easier schedules? According to your logic weak teams should play the hardest teams to have a better chance at a Super Bowl run. Now does that really make sense to you?

It's virtually mathematically impossible to have 10 full contact games if your division goes 0-16, 0-16, 0-16, 16-0.

4 AFC opponents are not going to finish with winning records at the same time 4 NFC opponents and 2 divisional opponents who had the same previous standing do. Someone in your division has to step up, I hope it's Manning because I really don't like him as a quarterback and would love to bounce his *** from playoff contention.

You don't find a correlation between the AFC West becoming less competitive and the lack of titles won by said division?

[TopekaRoy]

Impossible when you take into account that they play each other two games each home and away.

Yeah, that was kind of dumb.

They could all go 1-15, though. I'd be okay with that!

[#58ChiefsFan]

0-14-2 let em tie each other 0-0 twice, it really doesnt matter so long as we have a better record.

[TopekaRoy]

0-14-2 let em tie each other 0-0 twice, it really doesnt matter so long as we have a better record.

I forgot about ties. That's even better!

[N TX Dave]

1) I think 10 full contact games in the regular season would keep our guys in practice. 2) If playing easier teams in the year isn't a benefit, then why do losing teams get easier schedules? According to your logic weak teams should play the hardest teams to have a better chance at a Super Bowl run. Now does that really make sense to you?

But now days last year's standing only account for 2 games. So standings only account for 12.5% of the next years schedule. So lets drop easier schedule BS every team in your division plays the same 14 games you do.

• Each team plays the other three teams in their division twice: once at home, and once on the road (six games).
• Each team plays the four teams from another division within its own conference once on a rotating three-year cycle: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
• Each team plays the four teams from a division in the other conference once on a rotating four-year cycle: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
• Each team plays once against the other teams in its conference that finished in the same place in their own divisions as themselves the previous season, not counting the division they were already scheduled to play: one at home, one on the road (two games).

[azchiefsfan]

OK, the internet gotcha game is so cool. I said, and you who answered either don't know how to read or understand context, I DON"T CARE IF THEY WERE 0-16. Meaning it doesn't matter if they don't win a game it doesn't affect us at all. We don't need our AFC West competition to be good for us to be a legitimate team. There now, since I broke it down to 3rd grade level, I can think even you guys can understand this time.

[TopekaRoy]

But now days last year's standing only account for 2 games. So standings only account for 12.5% of the next years schedule. So lets drop easier schedule BS every team in your division plays the same 14 games you do.

Those two games can make a big difference, though. Let's say the Chiefs and Broncos both go 8-6 in the common 14 games. This year the Chiefs play IND (2-14) and BUF (6-10). The Broncos play HOU (10-6) and NE (13-3).

They could lose both and go 8-8 and we could win both and go 10-6.

Maybe.

Theoretically ...

[BoltWalt]

0-14-2 let em tie each other 0-0 twice, it really doesnt matter so long as we have a better record.

More like 0-12-4, any team in the division who wants supremacy in the division wants the other teams to tie in their games that they play in division twice both home and away while winning their own games in the division.

[dbolan]

The only thing bigger than Wlways teeth is his ego!! Crash and burn Donks!! Manning is def one of the greatest qbs ever, BUT..... He has only won 1 SB in all his years, and that year their D was dominant for most of the year. Not sure how the Donks think they're gonna go from a heavy run based offense, to a Peyton Manning like offense in one year without really changing some personnel. Alot of the pieces that helped them achieve all those wins had gelled together for years. Does Peyton upgrade your team?? Yes. Does he mean your gonna win a Super Bowl?? Not by a long shot!! I'd live to see Hellway get canned after this blows up, er wait... No keep him in there!! Go Chiefs!!!

First...Not many make it to the SB and win. How many QB's have we had in the SB? And on top of that, how many AFC titles have we won? How many division titles? Now, compare that to Manning's body of work.

Second...Manning led his team to victory in that SB over the Bears on grass and in the rain.

My point is...Don't take his ability to lightly or downplay the ONE SB win.

[TopekaRoy]

First...Not many make it to the SB and win. How many QB's have we had in the SB? And on top of that, how many AFC titles have we won? How many division titles? Now, compare that to Manning's body of work.

Second...Manning led his team to victory in that SB over the Bears on grass and in the rain.

My point is...Don't take his ability to lightly or downplay the ONE SB win.

I wouldn't put to much weight on that SB win either.

First, the Bears QB was Rex Grossman!

Second, RB Cedric Benson injured his knee in the first quarter and was out for the rest of the game. The Bears, who were a run team anyway, were depending heavily on being able to run the ball in the rain. Their normally stout defense was slipping and sliding on the soggy field.

Still the Bears were only down by 2 points at halftime and by 5 at the end of the 3rd quarter.

Manning completed 25 passes for 258 yds with 1 TD and 1 Int. Not elite numbers, but not bad either. It wasn't so much Manning that won that game, but the 2 headed running attack of Dominic Rhodes (113 yds) and Joseph Addai (77 yds) who combined for 190 yds ruyshing. Addai (a running back!) also was their leading receiver with 10 catches for 66 yds.

The Colts strong run game allowed them to stay on the field for 38:04 to the Bears 21:56. Their defense had 2 interceptions and recovered two Bears fumbles, as well.

Manning is still a very good QB and, if he stays healthy will certainly make the Broncos better than they would have been with Tebow, but that SB win was definitely a team effort. I give credit to Manning for playing a solid game.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that Manning doesn't make the Broncos unbeatable. Even ESPN has 7 teams ranked better in their preseason power rankings. It's still a team sport, and I think the Chiefs will have the better team this year.