Jeff Allen

**texaschief** · 04-27-2012, 08:08 PM

Discuss

**TopekaRoy** · 04-27-2012, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by brdempsey69

Nice work by the Chiefs brass with this pick and with 6 more picks to come & already having 650+ pounds of BEEF on board with the first 2 picks, this draft is shaping up very nice.

**texaschief** · 04-27-2012, 09:05 PM

Asomoah-3rd round
Hudson-2nd round
Allen-2nd round

THIS IS HOW YOU DRAFT AN OFFENSIVE LINE INTERIOR!!!

PERFECT... ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.

**brdempsey69** · 04-27-2012, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by TopekaRoy

Just what I was hoping for in the first 2 rounds of this draft -- BEEF !!

**Eydugstr** · 04-27-2012, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by brdempsey69

Exactly. Peterson and HERM EDWARDS didn't address the O-Line for the future through the draft in any way shape or form and everybody and their brother knew that Willie Roaf and Will Shields were going to be retiring circa 2005-2006 and their drafts produced nothing in the way of replacements for these guys.

Fixed! Herm deserves his share of crud for neglecting a top ranked offense.

Allen's a solid pick, it's rare to see someone that's ready to pass block in the NFL from word go. Looking forward to september already...

Personally I'd like to see us draft another O-lineman, then focus on other needs. Some more depth at center would be nice.

**texaschief** · 04-27-2012, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by Eydugstr

Fixed! Herm deserves his share of crud for neglecting a top ranked offense.

Allen's a solid pick, it's rare to see someone that's ready to pass block in the NFL from word go. Looking forward to september already...

Personally I'd like to see us draft another O-lineman, then focus on other needs. Some more depth at center would be nice.

You're delusional if you think Edwards inherited a top ranked offense. Get real. The defense was perennially bottom 5. The defense needed more attention. If Vermeil and Peterson had drafted correctly, there would have been Olinemen to step in after Shields and Roaf departed. Not to mention, Peterson passed on a trade from Green Bay for Larry Johnson and instead gave him a contract that served has handcuffs for the franchise.

**HaliForPresident** · 04-28-2012, 05:29 AM

"Peterson and HERM EDWARDS didn't address the O-Line for the future through the draft in any way shape or form". I'm sure glad Branden Albert apparently appeared out of thin air or we'd really be in trouble.

If you guys are Chiefs fans you would realize the only draft that only draft Herm was really given the reins on is the one that brought in Carr, Flowers, Dorsey, Charles, Albert and Richardson. That is more than Pioli can say for his first 2 drafts combined. Last year was the first draft with Pioli i was happy with, although i got extremely excited when Muhammad Wilkerson dropped to us, then extremely pissed when we drafted Baldwin instead. Kind of like when we took Poe when DeCastro was available. However, liked our 2nd round pick a lot.

**chief31** · 04-28-2012, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by texaschief

You're delusional if you think Edwards inherited a top ranked offense. Get real. The defense was perennially bottom 5. The defense needed more attention. If Vermeil and Peterson had drafted correctly, there would have been Olinemen to step in after Shields and Roaf departed. Not to mention, Peterson passed on a trade from Green Bay for Larry Johnson and instead gave him a contract that served has handcuffs for the franchise.

Will Svitek was starting in 2011 for The Falcons.

But, considering their needs on defense, and the amazing success on offense, it was a no-brainer to work on the defense.

Now, did they suck at drafting D-line? Oh yeah. But There was a whole lot more talent on this team than you care to admit.

Many of the players that Herm saw leave wound up proving it with other teams.

And had the talent not been cast off from our defense, then maybe Herm would have been able to draft O-line for those retiring.

Herm did a terrible job as HC of The Chiefs. Your excuses don't change that.

**HaliForPresident** · 04-28-2012, 06:16 AM

All the key players in the Chiefs playoff run 2 years ago were from Herm Edwards and Peterson's draft. Herm set the Chiefs up for success with his last draft, whether he was a good coach or not he did that much. Speaking of letting talent go Wilkerson became a starter after leaving Chiefs. Pioli let him and Babin (pro bowler) go and Waters last season. Oh, and Pioli tired to trade Charles to Redskins for a 3rd round pick we're just lucky they were equally as dumb.

**chiefnut** · 04-28-2012, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by HaliForPresident

All the key players in the Chiefs playoff run 2 years ago were from Herm Edwards and Peterson's draft. Herm set the Chiefs up for success with his last draft, whether he was a good coach or not he did that much. Speaking of letting talent go Wilkerson became a starter after leaving Chiefs. Pioli let him and Babin (pro bowler) go and Waters last season. Oh, and Pioli tired to trade Charles to Redskins for a 3rd round pick we're just lucky they were equally as dumb.

i know this will bring out all the king carl haters but peterson himself had said only 2 times did he overule the head coach on draft day, once was larry johnson and i don't remember the other. based on that i would place blame and credit squarely on the head coaches and their scouts.

**HaliForPresident** · 04-28-2012, 10:04 AM

Lol ya of course Peterson how convenient. "I didn't ever overrule any picks except for Larry Johnson, Derrick Thomas, Bowe, Flowers, Charles, Albert, Jared Allen and Derrick Johnson... too bad they didn't listen when i said to take Tom Brady, Darrel Revis and Larry Fitzgerld"... I do like how Pioli is building our OL. Would rather have found a way for Kalil or DeCastro but maybe they don't fit our offense like they want.