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    If you've found yourself to be a Cassel apologist, please read this. If you still are aft you read it, there is no hope for you:

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    Zorn at camp recently: “He’s dramatically improved because we’ve been able to spend so much time together between all the OTAs, the minicamp and now,” Zorn said of Cassel. “I really feel that he is further along than he was last year. He’s really taking charge. He’s working on things that he wasn’t working on last year at this time. The way he attacks his line of scrimmage with his command, he’s changing things or keeping things on. Our tempo is much better. We’ve really improved a lot of things sooner than we did last year.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    You do know that Haley was the coach and had influence on the playcalling in 2010 when Cassel had his good year just as he did in 11.

    And how in God's name can you tell what plays cassel called?
    No, Weis was given OC control in 2010 by those with authority over Haley...which is why from the get go Haley had hard feelings. Haley attempted to micro manage, regardless, which led to Weis wanting out. Many players wanted out of KC too as a result of Haley, including Brian Waters in 2009.

    As far as how I know things...I hear things I'm not suppose to hear as a fan, and I'll leave it at that. ;)

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    The best part about this entire thread is how irrelevant it is. #7 will be starting QB on day 1 and he will sink or swim on his own merit and this entire back and forth will not matter.

    This season will put to end any and all speculation

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    You do know that Haley was the coach and had influence on the playcalling in 2010 when Cassel had his good year just as he did in 11.

    And how in God's name can you tell what plays cassel called?
    No he didnt. He wanted more control weis didnt want to give it to haley. Hence why weiss left before the season was over and then came back to the kc area before haley was fired last season a final f u to todd.

    And if you havent read many of her posts she has first hand knowledge of the chiefs organization if you listen to anyone it should ve connie jo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigeriannightmare View Post
    And if you havent read many of her posts she has first hand knowledge of the chiefs organization if you listen to anyone it should ve connie jo.
    MMO does not, never has and never will listen to anybody but MMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connie Jo View Post
    Blame for the horrible play-calling is on Haleys shoulders, not Matt's. 2009 Haley fires the OC & throws out the playbook 2 wks before season...season result was horrible with Haley acting as HC & OC. 2010 we had Weis. Again Haley tried to micro manage the OC's job & playcalling, which led to Weis leaving the Chiefs pre post season playoff against the Ravens. The result of Haley acting as OC for that playoff game = another disaster. 2011 Zorn & Muir were both calling plays, and Haley again would intervene changing the play called. There were times during a game Matt would signal for someone, anyone, to make a dang call!

    The few times Matt took it upon himself to make a call...Haley ripped him apart, including on camera during one game! The majority of the few plays Matt did call were successful...Haley can't make that claim!

    The players at camp right now say there is so much more organization to what they're being taught offensively. They love Daboll, including Matt! They all say it's great to finally have one OC instructing them, and they can all be on the same page! Crennel is not interferring at all with Daboll, he's letting him do his thing!
    Haley was the HC. But his superiors blocked him from doing his job, by doing it for him. 09 was a bad year because it was a whole new staff/system for a 2-12 team.

    Haley never had a chance to succeed with his offense, because he had his chance revoked.

    The problem at OC was that the HC was not bro.g allowed to run the offense he wanted.

    How well the offense would have done with the HC being allowed to do his.job is purely speculative. But the issue with lack of communication was a direct result of the GM trying to do.the HCs job for him.

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    Man that is a tough read..Wish KC had $ New 49er stadium round tha block. Their QB zucks 2 Night crowd
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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    Haley was the HC. But his superiors blocked him from doing his job, by doing it for him. 09 was a bad year because it was a whole new staff/system for a 2-12 team.

    Haley never had a chance to succeed with his offense, because he had his chance revoked.

    The problem at OC was that the HC was not bro.g allowed to run the offense he wanted.

    How well the offense would have done with the HC being allowed to do his.job is purely speculative. But the issue with lack of communication was a direct result of the GM trying to do.the HCs job for him.


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    Yeah....I didn't understand it either. Beer post maybe?

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    Local media yesterday said Stanzi is getting worse each day and looked aweful yesterday against Arizona. That being said, Cassel is so much better than anything Arizona has, and jokingly said they could get 4 first round picks from Arizona they are hurting so bad for a QB.

    Even said that Quinn would be their starter as he was a whole lot better than what they had. They were not able to connect on routes run against air.

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