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    Default den sched too tough for manning???

    just because i just noticed it and to change subjects for a bit, looking at the bronco sched its possible they end up 2-14 instead of 14-2.
    steelers-loss
    falcons -loss
    texans- loss
    raiders - win
    chargers-loss
    saints -loss
    bengals - loss ?
    panthers -loss?
    chargers - loss?
    CHIEFS - loss
    ravens - loss
    CHIEFS -loss
    raiders - loss?
    browns - win

    not actualy predicting it, but i could see it hapening if things don't go right in those [?] games.
    so much for the donx being the favorite to win the division, heyna or no???
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    But Matt, cmon, 2010 schedule was very weak, you have to admit it, and that's the reason why everyone thinks Cassel can be our franchise guy. As the seasons go on, and the schedule gets tougher you start to see people have doubts about Cassel's ability. Why? Just like 2010 showed if we had played better teams he would of faltered, the numbers and record are there, from the past 3 seasons, including 2010.
    I'm not going to go through this same argument again with you it is what it is. You want to put all the loses of this team on Cassel fine do it. I won't before I see what Cassel does with THIS team with THIS OC without a HC/OC and an OC to please. Lets just see what happens this season if Cassel fails then bash him fine. But if he should be good and do well give him just a little credit where it's due.
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    But Matt, cmon, 2010 schedule was very weak, you have to admit it, and that's the reason why everyone thinks Cassel can be our franchise guy. As the seasons go on, and the schedule gets tougher you start to see people have doubts about Cassel's ability. Why? Just like 2010 showed if we had played better teams he would of faltered, the numbers and record are there, from the past 3 seasons, including 2010.
    Dude u either cant read dint understand reading or comprehending fact. This team that scott pioli and matt cassel came to was 2 and 14, won six games in 2 urs.....if you dont think thats a bad situation to come into you are flat out ignorant. No matter how you want to spin it those two are part of the reason we were dividion champs, 2 yrs removed from a 2 and 14 season with all those great players that were drafted by herm edwards. A win is a feaking win dude your.contempt for one player is astounding. Hes a chief you should want him to succeed.

    And most on thisbsite think cassel is a servicable qb who.may exceed expectations is he a top tier qb no but can he get it done yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    Stop with the excuses, always blaming it on someone else.

    But you're right, you and I don't want to get into it again. Matt this is the bottom line, with the exception of our D line we are fine everywhere else. Like it or not, much of the season comes down to the passing game. It comes down to Matt Cassel, we have proven we can run the ball and play good defense, but what was the big question going into the offseason? The qb position. So we will see what happens.
    Stop leaving out the FACTS even when they don't support your view. Which is what you always do. I stand by my Challange to you Orton find me a qb that took over a 2-14 team had nearly 50 dropped passes and the 29th ranked defense that put up good numbers. There's a reason you haven't been able to IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. Until you can either admit it's been more then Cassel or show me that QB that has put up good numbers in the spot Cassel has been in with this team then I won't discuss this any further with you. You can have your view I can have mine. But learn to include ALL FACTS and not only the ones that you want to include before you talk to someone about making excuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    You act like taking over a 2-14 team then going 4-12, throwing 16 td and 16 int with a 69 qb rating is some momentous accomplishment.

    Chad Pennington took over a 1-15 miami dolphins team and went 11-5 the next year, threw for more ypg, had a better record and rating than cassel did.


    But Matt, the facts remain, our only question that shouldnt be a question is the qb position. We have shown we can run the ball on offense and play good defense, it's up to the qb now.
    Did Chad Pennington have the 29th ranked D that year. Did Chad Pennington have nearly 50 dropped passes? It's not the same thing.

    Qb is a question I have said many times this is it for Cassel there is talent around him and depth around him now. It's make or break for him
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    4-12. That isnt even mediocre. That isn't even average. That's not even below average. That is terrible, that is a top 3 pick.
    But yet you praise a management team that went 2-14???????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    You do realize King Carl's first year he turned a 4-11 team into a 8-7 team, then the following year they were 11-5.

    Just saying.
    Thanks fot priving my point. Hoe long was carl gm.....20 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    So you're saying you want Pioli to be here for 20 years?
    If he continues ro improve the team with youth absolutely. We are the youngest team in the nfl with a defense that very well could be dominant. Not saying the D will be 90's good but our D will be tough to beat, id say top 5. Our iffense is young and i think stanzi gonna be the qb we have all looked for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    I have NEVER praised King Carl, I have only said the majority of our impact players were from the previous regime, and it holds true.
    In your mind yes since you won't give any of Pioli's guys a fair shake. Mccluster,Moaki,Succop,Houston,Jackson,Berry (although you do give him credit) Breaston
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    All I know is he better be on his A game when he lines up against our Cgiefs this year. I think we are gonna be focused, and better prepared than we were last season. If Cassel can hand the ball off to our 2 bruisers, and Romeos D is strong we will be in the mix for division title with Manning! I'm excited for this season.... Go Chiefs!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Man Orton View Post
    I heard that his injury cannot be injured again from a hit, it has to be from something else (Dont ask me why, a doc on espn a couple of days ago said that)
    And lightening can never hit the same place twice.

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