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    Whitlock's take on the events from Fox Sports.


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    You gotta be f---ing kidding me.

    In a society that increasingly supports caged human ****fighting ó aka MMA ó has a proud history with boxing, cheers lustily whenever fights break out inside a hockey rink and builds Roman Empire-stylized coliseums for football games, a 320-pound, sweet-talking lineman has somehow convinced a segment of America that Chiefs fans are the sick and disgusting bad guys.
    You gotta be f---ing kidding me.

    You damn straight a small percentage of Chiefs fans cheered loudly when two overgrown Ravens knocked Matt Cassel smooth the hell out. Did we not cheer when Mike Tyson curb-stomped Michael Spinks? Google the knockout work that made Anderson Silva the MMAís most beloved star and tell me if you hear respectful silence or wild, joyful hysteria?

    We love violence and Eric Winstonís hypocritical *** is wealthy because heís relatively adept at inflicting it. The only thing all that unusual about the smattering of cheers that greeted Casselís glazed-eyed trip to the turf is that his hometown fans gave life to the noise. And for that, you can blame Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, his boss, Chiefs owner Clark Hunt, and the escalating cost of being a sports fan in the era of shopping mall-amusement park stadiums.

    Sickening? A smattering of cheers for an injured $66 million quarterback with a rating of 66.2 and a league-leading 14 turnovers?

    No. No. Whatís sickening is how easily Winston, Kansas Cityís right tackle, deflected the national media from the real story. One of the most passionate fan bases in sports ó Kansas City Chiefs fans ó has been abused so thoroughly the last eight to 10 years that it is turning unruly. What happened Sunday inside Arrowhead Stadium is a result of the Hunt familyís neglect of their fan base. This has been brewing since 1998, since Marty Schottenheimer courageously and justifiably realized he should move on after 10 years in Kansas City. From 1989 to 1998, Schottenheimer and his front-office partner Carl Peterson transformed Arrowhead Stadium from an empty parking lot into one of the coolest, most electric places on earth eight fall Sundays a year. Football Sundays in Kansas City became mini-holidays. The whole town wore red starting on Fridays. Tailgating at Arrowhead Stadium before games was Kansas Cityís No. 1 social activity.

    Iíve watched NFL games at every venue. Nothing compared to Arrowhead Stadium during the Schottenheimer era. Nothing. The Chiefs never advanced to the Super Bowl, but Kansas City was the NFLís ground zero. The players, coaches and executives were treated like royalty.

    The players, coaches, executives and ownership got spoiled. They didnít have to win it all to be treated as if they had. The Chiefs havenít won a playoff game since 1993. Thatís right. The Chiefs havenít won a playoff game in two decades. But the stadium was filled, the parking lot packed and Chiefs jerseys hung in seemingly every Kansas City closet so Lamar Hunt, Kansas Cityís Dallas-based owner, allowed Carl Peterson to hang around 10 years after Schottenheimer left, a good five years after it was painfully obvious Petersonís previous success was a result of Schottenheimerís brilliance. Most Chiefs fans concluded Hunt wouldíve never allowed Peterson to linger for a decade if Hunt lived in Kansas City and felt the pain of each disappointing season as personally as Kansas City residents. Kansas Citians attached their identity to their professional football team. Joe Montana, Marcus Allen and Derrick Thomas made the typical, insecure Kansas Citian feel big time.
    The stench of Petersonís last 10 years and Lamar Huntís loyalty to Peterson are fueling Chiefs fans lack of patience with their successors, Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt. The situation is further exacerbated by KCís newly renovated stadium and the elevated cost associated with it. Chiefs fans are paying $27 to park, $200 for a club-level seat, $10 for beer and are watching teams with no reasonable shot at postseason success.
    For the most part in todayís NFL, no quarterback equals no shot.

    Lamar Hunt and Carl Peterson could never pick a quarterback. In 20 years, they never drafted one in the first round. They preferred to sign someone elseís veteran. Given a choice in the 1990s between benching an aloof, inconsistent and expensive Elvis Grbac and going with locker-room/fan favorite Rich Gannon, Hunt and Peterson let Gannon escape to Oakland, where he won a league MVP award, made four Pro Bowls and one Super Bowl appearance. Grbac eventually bounced to Baltimore and quit football. No one, besides Trent Dilfer, remembers Elvis Grbac.

    Scott Pioliís first major personnel decision in Kansas City was giving Matt Cassel a franchise-quarterback contract despite his highly suspicious resume. Cassel never played at USC. He played one season at New England. Cassel is Pioliís original sin, the mistake that has haunted his four years in Kansas City. Pioli, the Bill Belichick disciple, saw in Cassel the second coming of Tom Brady. Pioli arrogantly and foolishly thought heíd discovered Brady in a bottle twice. Ha.

    This year Cassel has been the worst starting quarterback in football. Heís a turnover machine. He clearly lacks confidence. His arm strength is atrocious. His ball floats up before it moves ahead. He needs to be benched. Pioli wonít allow it.

    Before Sundayís game, a group of working-class Chiefs fans pooled their money to fly a banner over Arrowhead Stadium demanding that Hunt fire Pioli and bench Cassel. These people love their football team. Clark Hunt lives in Dallas. The fans are spending their money to get the attention of their absentee owner. Theyíre afraid that Pioli-Hunt is going to be a replica of Peterson-Hunt. Their fears are justified. Pioli is a poor manís Peterson. Pioli is an embarrassingly insecure version of Peterson, a man with a bloated ego. Pioli masks his insecurity with a false bravado, a dictatorís management approach and a constant desire to manipulate the media into believing he was the brains behind the Patriots dynasty.

    Chiefs fans arenít having it. They want a real quarterback. They want the Cassel charade to end. Pioliís stubbornness forced a handful of Chiefs fans to spontaneously thank the Ravens for momentarily ending their Matt Cassel nightmare. I think America will survive.
    Itís easy for the national media to sit on their couches, inside their television studios or on their free, comfy press-box seats and preach polite decency to the working-class folks paying to watch their hijacked football team.

    I wonít do it. I was inside Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday as a Chiefs fan. Iím not the type to boo or cheer. But I want Pioli fired. Eric Winston, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan View Post
    I can't argue against your idea here because it deals with the team's "emotion" and emotion is impervious to logic. You are certainly right that if the whole cheering/booing/injury thing really fired the team up to shove it in the fan's face then we could run the table from here out. Stranger things have happened though I can't think of one right now.

    But since you are being reasonable (which is a bit uncommon around here these days) IF Cassel does start again.....at what point do you accept that the season is shot and that it is time to give Quinn and Stanzi their shots and start thinking about next year's draft?

    I am not being argumentative, but I have moved on from Cassel, accepted in my heart that this season is going to be a bust and am thinking about what we can do to bring our beloved Chiefs the success they and we deserve.

    Since you don't seem to be at that point, in your opinion, when is it time for us as fans to give up on Cassel?

    If we stick with Cassel and go 4-12, 6-10, 7-9 without giving Quinn and Stanzi a thorough tryout then I think this season will have been a HUGE WASTE.

    I'd rather go 2-14 and give both Quinn and Stanzi both a chance to show what they are made of than go 7-9 with Cassel and get no real look at Quinn and Stanzi.

    Your thoughts please.
    I'm all for what you originally described with the exception of playing Quinn until we are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention. Once that happens its time to see what Stanzi has and hope he is a viable back-up to an all out effort to draft a true qbotf.

    It bothers me to move on from Cassel because I really wanted to see the kid succeed. As the games go by there is little reason to believe he can, and I can accept that.

    I'm just going from what I believe the powers that be will do with Matt assuming he is medically cleared to play again. I truly believe he is still the leader of the locker room despite the win loss record and that the team will do anything they can to execute more efficiently when he returns. Especially his lineman who basically got him injured through missed tackles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandKing77 View Post
    To salvage any part of this season we have to find the real answer to our QB question. Sure if this was a Disney movie something special might happen where Cassel comes back from his injury, we win the superbowl and then he rides Sea Biscuit in the parade.

    However, in the real world it would be better off for us to find out what we actually have on the roster. Give Quinn the time to show if he has taken a personal interest in becoming a better player these last two years. I'd say give him more than 2 games to demonstrate this. If he isn't then give the Stanzi the chance.

    If none of the QBs on the roster are worthwhile, best to know now and then address it with the high round draft pick we will surely have.

    Also, once it becomes mathematically impossible to have any type of ramifications for the playoffs even in the terrible AFC West, they should start resting players and curb their playing time. (Charles, Flowers, Johnson) If this is a throw away season then save the players we need.
    The thing that most concerns me in this whole mess is the overuse of Charles. It's a damn shame the coaching staff, with all the individual talent on this roster, can't put a better game plan together.

    I fully agree with this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IslandKing77 View Post
    To salvage any part of this season we have to find the real answer to our QB question. Sure if this was a Disney movie something special might happen where Cassel comes back from his injury, we win the superbowl and then he rides Sea Biscuit in the parade.

    However, in the real world it would be better off for us to find out what we actually have on the roster. Give Quinn the time to show if he has taken a personal interest in becoming a better player these last two years. I'd say give him more than 2 games to demonstrate this. If he isn't then give the Stanzi the chance.

    If none of the QBs on the roster are worthwhile, best to know now and then address it with the high round draft pick we will surely have.

    Also, once it becomes mathematically impossible to have any type of ramifications for the playoffs even in the terrible AFC West, they should start resting players and curb their playing time. (Charles, Flowers, Johnson) If this is a throw away season then save the players we need.
    Agreed. My mentioning of the whole storybook ending thing was meant rather tongue-in-cheek....although it could happen....and I could win the Powerball for a hundred million. Matter of fact I think I am far more likely to win the Powerball than Cassel is to bring us to the Superbowl this year.

    I really hope management does not go back to Cassel once he is healthy. If they do I think the fans will go wild with hatred and blood lust and Cassel does not need the abuse he would take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayvern View Post
    Fatlock is at it again, I thought he was run out of town a couple of years ago.
    He basically was run out of town. He was almost hated more than Cassel and I just about came in here and said you lost me at Jason Twitlock, but this has to be one of the best articles he has ever written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ctchiefsfan View Post
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    I really hope management does not go back to Cassel once he is healthy. If they do I think the fans will go wild with hatred and blood lust and Cassel does not need the abuse he would take.
    That's my biggest fear, as well. One can easily blame the Chiefs brass --- especially Pioli --- for letting things come to this regarding Cassel.

    If Pioli were any good man, he'd have told Crennel prior to their game with Baltimore, that if Cassel was struggling, that Crennel was free to make the change at QB. That change should have came after that fumble at the goal line. Everybody and their brother could see that a change at QB was needed to at least TRY to get a spark going on Offense.

    But, of course, Cassel was left in the game because Pioli has handcuffed his HC in a futile attempt to justify his decision to trade for Cassel & sign him to a big contract & Pioli can't admit it was a mistake.

    BTW, has anyone noticed that Pioli has been mysteriously absent at the Chiefs home games & is no where to be seen recently?

    I agree with Whitlock -- FIRE Pioli. All he's done is turn the Chiefs into a political organization more so than a football team.

    Quote Originally Posted by #58ChiefsFan View Post
    Ill respectfully disagree that Cassels time in KC is over. He's most likely out this week and then we have our bye week.

    Be careful what you (and I) wish for, Quinn isn't the greatest QB. We are so desperate for anything that gets this team going that we are putting players like Orton and Quinn on a level they have never earned the right to be on.

    As bad as it is I still believe Cassel gives us a better chance to win, and that's not a fun place to be.

    If this turns into Gannon/Grbac 2 imma loose my frickin mind.
    Sorry, but I must differ with you. Cassel does NOT give them the best chance to win. That's already been proven on the field thus far in 2012. The team just does not believe in Cassel.

    I'm not saying Quinn will be any better. But, there's nothing to lose, so why not give him a chance? He simply cannot do any worse.

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    I agree with starting him but I have less confidence that he will be more efficient, although efficient isn't the right word. Sounds like we will find out Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    Cassel was left in the game because Pioli has handcuffed his HC in a futile attempt to justify his decision to trade for Cassel & sign him to a big contract & Pioli can't admit it was a mistake.
    I've read many statements to this effect and it does seem likely, but do we actually KNOW that this is true? Charging Pioli with sacrificing the best interests of the team to his own ego is a big charge to make and IMO not one that should be made lightly. Is there any actual evidence for this???



    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    Sorry, but I must differ with you. Cassel does NOT give them the best chance to win. That's already been proven on the field thus far in 2012. The team just does not believe in Cassel.

    I'm not saying Quinn will be any better. But, there's nothing to lose, so why not give him a chance? He simply cannot do any worse.
    Just for a moment, let's say that Cassel does give us the best chance of winning any given game. WHO CARES???!!!

    What does he give us a chance of winning?

    In my mind all he has a chance of winning for us is a chance at parity and mediocrity.

    Does anybody really think he gives us any chance of winning a playoff game more to the point a Superbowl?

    I think not.

    So the "winning" Cassel offers us is a chance at 7-9 or maybe 8-8 or at best 9-7 with no likely playoff spot and a first round exit should we happen to sneak into the playoffs.

    I don't think Hunt, Pioli or Crennel consider that to be "winning" and I'm damned sure the fans don't think so.

    Actually winning means we are a serious playoff contender and have a real shot at going somewhere once we make the playoffs. And Cassel isn't going to do that.

    So it is time to say goodbye to Cassel and give Quinn and/or Stanzi a chance to show us if they can lead a winning team. If they can't, then it's time to look in the draft or Free Agency.

    I'd rather go 2-14 this year and find out once and for all that all our quarterbacks are busts than to continue to limp along at 7-9, 8-8 or 9-7 and being deluded into thinking that maybe, just maybe we have a "good enough" quarterback.

    "Good Enough" isn't good enough any more. I want us to START WINNING or at least trying to. And we're not going to with Cassel.

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    You, me and a large portion of the fanbase would rather tank this season and move on but there is absolutely no chance the front office will do that. Until we are eliminated from a playoff spot it's hard to argue that logic. We are going to have to accept they will try to win as many games as they can.

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    I honestly hope you are wrong. I am so sick of playing in an attempt to achieve mediocrity. I'd rather tank this season and 3 more while looking for a real quarterback than spending the next 3 1/2 years limping along and hoping for 8-8.

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