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    May well be on the chopping block this off season.

    ...Worth a trade??? If so, who/what???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    Don't do it Guru! It's not worth it. I don't think it's, exactly, the case this time. We're not talking about an over the hill, used up, washed up, has-been, never-will-be, hopeful or wanna-be, Alex Smith is at least a proven starter. However, I understand the arguments you make.
    Whoa, I wouldn't go THAT far. He had 5 crappy years prior to the last 1.5 good years.
    THAT quarterback is NOT a Pro Bowl quarterback. Never was and never will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    Whoa, I wouldn't go THAT far. He had 5 crappy years prior to the last 1.5 good years.
    True, but with Reid I would expect him to continue to perform well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    Alex Smith is better than Cassel. My sticking point is that Alex Smith is going to want a multi year deal with starting QB money. 49'ers are gonna want at least our 2nd rd pick(#34 overall) and likely more. I'm not sure he is worth lots of money or commitment and draft picks. That's what I hope Andy Reid can answer.
    I think there's going to be a big difference in what Smith Wants and what he's going to be getting. His struggles at the start of his NFL career is going to cost him when it comes contract time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guru View Post
    Whoa, I wouldn't go THAT far. He had 5 crappy years prior to the last 1.5 good years.
    I agree that you can't ignore those crappy 5 years but I also think you have to at least look at the horrid head coaches he had in those 5 years. Coaching can go a long way with players. We saw Cassel play well with a proven OC. But we saw Smith play better then Cassel when he got a good head coach as Cassel never won a playoff game and has never been near the top of QB rating like Smith was this year. I think the coaching that Smith had played a factor in those struggles in the first 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    True, but with Reid I would expect him to continue to perform well.
    And you don't think cassel would? Who we would have to give up nothing for and restructure his contract to lower his pay from 7.5 millon to around 3-4 millon? something smith wouldn't do.

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    I agree that you can't ignore those crappy 5 years but I also think you have to at least look at the horrid head coaches he had in those 5 years. Coaching can go a long way with players. We saw Cassel play well with a proven OC. But we saw Smith play better then Cassel when he got a good head coach as Cassel never won a playoff game and has never been near the top of QB rating like Smith was this year. I think the coaching that Smith had played a factor in those struggles in the first 5 years.
    Again your selling cassel short. Smith didn't outplay cassel, If you compare their 2010 and 2011 seasons cassel had a better season.. Period. Better QB rating better TD/INT ratio. The ONLY reason cassel didn't win a playoff game is because the TEAM fell apart with the haley weiss fued. It was evident as hell. Play calling changed, Oline went to hell, defense collapsed. Do people not remember that we were a bowe TD drop away from beating the colts, a defensive IMPLOSION from beating the texans aswell and starting the season 7-0. And then you could go further to our defense in our next loss in oakland giving in and letting the raiders win it in OT. And our last game of the season again against oakland after the haley weiss rift went public we got manhandled by oakland in every form of the game going into the playoffs. Now i know we most likely wouldn't have won all 4 of those very games that we should have but even if we only win 2 of the 4 we finished 12-4 and likely have a bye in the playoffs, NONE of which were matt cassel's fault we lost. it wasn't matt cassel that fell apart it was the TEAM and the coaching. which was apparent in the next 2 years following of these team going back to complete garbage.

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    Oh and as opposed to cassel never was at the tops of the league like alex smith was is also incorrect. He was top 3 in the league for rating all season until the last game against the raiders which dropped him to i believe top 5 in the league, behind brady, flacco, rivers. Ahead of manning, ryan, cutler, freeman, and any other you want to throw in there. Take out the collapse against the raiders in the last game and he probably would have finished second behind brady... Alex smith WAS having a good year and got benched.. Don't think that helps the case with alex smith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairladyZ View Post
    And you don't think cassel would? Who we would have to give up nothing for and restructure his contract to lower his pay from 7.5 millon to around 3-4 millon? something smith wouldn't do.
    I didn't say that, I was merely discussing the prospect of acquiring Alex Smith as per the thread topic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    This is why I don't see the Cassel to smith being a fair comparison. Cassel played really well in 2010. But he was never that high of a Completion% and Qb rating. And Unlike Cassel Smith has won a playoff game. Many feel he got a raw deal by losing his job. I'm not saying that we should just hand him the job but he would be a good guy to have to fight for it IMO. I just don't see Cassel 2.0 when I see Smith .
    Alex Smith has thrown more INTs and less TDs than Cassel. Thats why he gets the Cassel 2.0 title
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    Ok, I started to merge all the Alex Smith Threads, but it didn't work like I intended so I will stop here. It was not my intention to have any of the threads merge with the thread I started being the main thread. My apologies to Seek.


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