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    What if Ricky Stanzi is the answer for the Chiefs going into 2013? This article isn't suppose to be a case FOR Ricky Stanzi. However, there are some things that are worth noting when it comes to the young QB. I know this sounds a little off the wall, but if you think about it, there isn't an absolute dead on answer for this organization at the QB position. There isn't an Andruw Luck or RGIII in this draft worth taking #1 overall. If you're not interested in Mike Vick, there aren't any FA options out there either (Joe Flacco won't make it to FA). If the current coaching staff stays in place, you could make a case for Matt Moore from Miami, but even he is a stretch.

    Throughout the offseason, all we could talk about was the battle between Quinn and Stanzi for the #2 spot. If you're Crennel and Pioli heading into the season, you're probably going to put someone with more experience behind Cassel to keep you in contention if something goes wrong with Cassel. So, they obviously go with Quinn, even though most reports had Stanzi as the winner coming out of the preseason.

    As the season has progressed and each week has seen this team be absolutely disinterested, unmotivated, and downright horrible, so why wouldn't this franchise put the rookie in to see what they have in their former 5th round pick? If the QB play has been SO bad to this point, why not exhaust all your options for evaluation purposes... ESPECIALLY when it comes to a QB who at the very least, pushed Quinn to the max to be the #2?

    If you are Pioli and Crennel, here are your options going into 2013:

    • #1 overall pick QB- An EXTREME reach in value if taking a QB #1 overall. If they can't trade into the teens to grab a QB, taking a QB #1 overall would be worse than taking T. Jackson #3 overall.
    • Michael Vick- Best QB in the free agent market
    • Trade for a current backup. Poor options, costs draft picks. (Besides, isn't that what we have in Stanzi?)
    • Ricky Stanzi- 5th round pick with 2 seasons behind Matt Cassel (who sat behind Tom Brady) and his great work ethic (even if not great skill).


    Put Ricky Stanzi and his stats next to one of the QBs coming out of this draft. Look at his size and comparisons. Is there REALLY a QB worth taking #1 overall that represents a higher upside than Ricky Stanzi with 2 years NFL experience? I have my doubts.

    According to this stats nut, when you plug Stanzi into his metrics formulas, Stanzi compares to Tom Brady, Sam Bradford, Andrew Luck, John Elway, Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer, Joe Flacco, Aaron Rogers, and Ben Roethlisberger among others.

    http://www.fantasyfootballmetrics.co..._2-23-2011.htm

    Metrics haven't hit in football nearly the way they have in baseball, but it's not like this article is something that should be dismissed. Coming out of college, Stanzi was getting a ton of Tom Brady comparisons. Not only are they the EXACT SAME SIZE, standing at 6'4, 225, but their college careers are damn near identical with the edge going to Stanzi in the same conference.

    Stanzi also has the confidence in GM Scott Pioli. This past summer, Pioli said he believed Stanzi could be a starter in this league:
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...fs-scott-pioli

    We don't know ANYTHING about what Ricky Stanzi can do in this league. When playing in preseason, he's been average with the 2nd group. There hasn't been anything definitive one way or the other about his play in the preseason that would make us believe that he's absolutely capable or incapable of playing at a high level in the NFL. What I CAN say about Stanzi is that we hadn't heard from Iowa BEFORE he got there and we haven't heard from them SINCE he left.

    If the front office came out this winter and said their plan was to go with Ricky Stanzi in 2013 and perhaps bring in another QB via the draft in the middle rounds, what could possibly be said about the decision? Stanzi was a 5th round QB that probably needed a couple seasons on the bench to be groomed. If in the summer of 2012 (his second season), he was already pushing a former first round pick for his position, imagine where he could be heading into his 2013 and beyond. At the very least, you'd have to think he's the clear favorite to be the #2 next season. If the Chiefs choose to go QB in free agency, you'd have to think Stanzi is their guy.

    Now, why wouldn't they be putting the kid in right now in order for him to gain some experience and perhaps some evaluation notes? Honestly, it could be to protect him. The O-line isn't healthy. This is the first year for the new OC and throwing in the young QB may not be the best environment for him, especially mid-season. It could be to protect him (and the FO jobs) from media scrutiny if this is in fact the path they decide to follow. As I said before, there's no definitive opinion on Stanzi outside the organization. The only thing we have to draw our conclusions from is the fact that the organization has decided NOT to put him on the field yet. What we are overlooking is the reason WHY. It seems that we are ASSUMING that it's because he's not good enough. I don't claim to know the answer, but what I AM saying is there could be OTHER reasons as to why Stanzi hasn't seen the field yet.

    Just remember that Ricki Stanzi was neck and neck with Brady Quinn for the backup spot heading into 2012. Most people thought he had beaten out Quinn for the job. Are we to believe that a 5th round pick who was making that kind of headway coming into the season, suddenly fell off a cliff to the point where he doesn't even warrant a look during a 2-win season? OR is it possible that maybe... just maybe, this team has already found its QBOTF and would rather let the young QB start with a fresh slate next season without the worry of the press writing article after article stating why Stanzi CAN'T be "the guy." If the front office has already done enough evaluations and have already made their mind up that Stanzi will be "the guy" in 2013, there's really no need in their mind, to put Stanzi on the field and have him exposed.

    Nobody knows anything about this kid other than the stats coming out of college that had the media drawing Tom Brady comparisons. Perhaps, they want to keep it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike View Post
    Because we currently don't have the coaching/management/scouting staffs to support Stanzi. Or any other young QB. Change that and maybe Stanzi becomes a leader. Who knows.

    No. There comes a time when you have to stop blaming everyboy else and look at the player, the fact is if he was a$$ kicking fool he would be starting but he's not. He didn't even beat out 2 awful qb's.

    Cut him.

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    MyMan how do you know he was given an honest chance to beat them, don't forget our coach drafted Quinn and our GM traded for what's his name? Again how many games has he played in? How many passes has he attempted? Why is a proven WR (Breaston) not even active on game day? Are you telling me J Newsome is a$$ kicking fool more than Breaston? This Coach/FO is clueless and the best player is not out there all the time.

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    Nice thought process. But why run the risk in 2013 of Stanzi actually not being good ? 3 games left and the only thing that i can see that matters in the least is giving Stanzi some game experience so they have a better idea what they have in him.

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    the game plan,has been the same every week.that is what pisses me off.run it twice and then on third down.A dump pass.You guys here that omaha,omaha every week.I would here that and say to myself.her is another run.If ic that as a fan.Any nfl d-efense should pickup on that easy.Daboll stinks and crennel is a dummy.cant remeber what game it was,but there was like 6 seconds left til half time and we were like 1-9 and down by like 17 pts or so and we kneeled on the ball.this team has now creativity.all of them on that coaching staff are dum as a box of rocks.fire them all.get the right coaches and gm in here and we might get the right 53.I will watch the chiefs on tv but won't by any merchandise or season tickets until we get a better product on the field.I now a team has a down season here or there but dam this is crazy.I'm almost staring to miss peterson.lmao

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    so your gonna believe everything this dum as coaching staff has to say,stanzi couldnt be any worse than cassel or quin.just couldnt be.I also think jerrell powe is better to and should have been on the field.you just cant believe anything any of these dummys have to say on the coaching staff.until we get better coaches and talent evaluators in here.just have to wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kckidd8870 View Post
    so your gonna believe everything this dum as coaching staff has to say,stanzi couldnt be any worse than cassel or quin.just couldnt be.I also think jerrell powe is better to and should have been on the field.you just cant believe anything any of these dummys have to say on the coaching staff.until we get better coaches and talent evaluators in here.just have to wait and see.
    Agree

    We have seen so many of the players on this team play much better then what they have in the past.

    I here people wanting to start Stanzi and I ask why do you hate Stanzi he wouldn't be put in a position to do anything. When your head coach sits your best WR for no reason that's just going to set him up to fail
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    Agree

    We have seen so many of the players on this team play much better then what they have in the past.

    I here people wanting to start Stanzi and I ask why do you hate Stanzi he wouldn't be put in a position to do anything. When your head coach sits your best WR for no reason that's just going to set him up to fail
    Agreed. There's nothing positive that can be gained at this point by running Stanzi out there to get exposed.

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    I think you fell down and hit your head. They put Stanzi in a few times and he looked terrible. And to compare him to Brady means you better lay off the Kool Aid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snookie View Post
    I think you fell down and hit your head. They put Stanzi in a few times and he looked terrible. And to compare him to Brady means you better lay off the Kool Aid.


    Don't recall seeing Stanzi on the field of play during the season. But then again i didn't get to see many games either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swochief View Post
    Don't recall seeing Stanzi on the field of play during the season. But then again i didn't get to see many games either.
    He hasn't played a single snap this year. Ignorance is bliss around here for some people.

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