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    Here's how the real NFL works when it comes to GMs, Coaches, Assistants, Coordinators and the personnel men, scouts: November and December are hustle months meaning they are getting their name on the street and talking with guys affiliated with teams. It's been so widespread for so long, its par for the course. For example, a scout looking to move up will reach out to teams in mid November in hopes of getting a gig right at the end of a season. These are guys looking to move up or find security because they know a change in "leadership" is forthcoming.

    So how does Pioli get lumped into this?

    Let's triple flashback to the day LaCanfora reported that Pioli had a new extension. Turns out it was never signed but damage was done.

    Let's double flashback to Pioli's interview tour. It was done without Clark's blessing. It was done to make Scott seem to be personable, dedicated and focused. All traits that a new employer wants to see during the time of "crisis". Face it, this season has been a massive crisis. Scott wants to demonstrate he can handle himself. So he did what he thought was a good thing.

    Clark was pissed. He was in Chicago having a conversation with a well-to-do ex Chiefs coach who has enjoyed a storied head coaching career in a town that rhymes with Hittsburg and is now on TV.

    Clark returns to KC, strips Pioli of all GM power. Silences him. Crennel is given control over the roster. Out goes Rhoutt.

    Let's flashback to November 10. Reports surfaced that Schottenheimer was at 1 Arrowhead to meet Clark Hunt, who flew in his private jet and landed downtown that morning. Clark was in KC. Pioli wasn't. A Chiefs employee called a national sports radio show to report this. The Chiefs went into full damage control.

    Where was Scott? In Providence. The picture we tweeted out was taken on November 11 at a hotel in Providence. During this time, he met with representatives from the Titans to discuss a potential role with the team with player personnel. Pioli has circulated his name to a few teams, including the Patriots. The picture was taken around the lunch hour. The Boston College/Notre Dame was an 8pm kickoff that night. Doesn't matter if Scott is employed with us or not, he's going to scout players so he knows whats going on in case another team falls for his **** again.

    Pioli flys to Pittsburgh for the MNF game.

    Clark Hunt flys to Pittsburgh for the game. Stays behind and has breakfast with one of the ESPN announcers who did the game the night before. Chuck is his name, I think.

    Then comes the really odd thing: After the Bengals game, Clark and Scott had a long meeting at Arrowhead. I got a text that night saying both were still in the stadium past 7pm. I didn't think anything of it. Then I get a message from a well placed source that Scott took the entire week of Thanksgiving off, arriving back into town the night before the Broncos game. Sorry, but NFL GMs don't take that kind of time off during the season.

    This week Scott was in Dallas to meet with Clark. This is the kiss of death. No different than when Carl was let go. Flying commercial to Dallas mid-week in December when there is no league business meetings scheduled, no college games to scout or anything else is a tell-tale sign.

    Notice that TV cameras have not shown Scott in the last 2 weeks? Or mentioned his name? Remember when CBS started talking about the blackout in the 4th quarter after word broke via Twitter that stadium security was confiscating our FIRE PIOLI signs and kicking people out of Arrowhead? Nothing in the NFL is done in the NFL by a whim. Nothing.

    So I mentioned Crennel and a buyout. The guy is just flat out exhausted. I'm hearing some health issues are popping up but Clark is sympathetic to what is going on with Romeo and what he's been through. Basically, for pension purposes (even at vested status), Romeo still needs credit for a full 16-game schedule. This is the deal worked out. It's respectable. And the Chiefs want that #1 pick.

    BTW, I am hearing the only reason that Clark refuses to make an in-season change now is that he doesn't want the players to get excited or pumped up for the new guy. Ray Farmer was slated to be the interim GM if Clark ever pulled the trigger. Clark really wants to give that new GM and Coach a #1 pick and let them decide to take a QB, trade down or do whatever.

    It is important to end this post with one simple statement: In the NFL the real moves occur ahead of the announced moves. Call it a game of shadows if you will. Some of the well placed media guys have an understanding not to report on certain things. Me, I could give a **** less. I'm a Chiefs fan, not a card-carrying member of the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigeriannightmare View Post
    I thought tony sparano is the OC in New York and Brian's in STL.
    I hadn't realized he moved. Well, that's a relief. The offense didn't improve after he left, so it must've been Sanchez for sure. lol

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    I would love to see Marty back. If OC's the questioned position, a good GM would make move and figure out a way to steal Al Saunders from the Raiders. You'd get a decent OC and leave a hole in a competitor's roster with a stroke of the pen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissingTBone View Post
    Well all I can say is he is proven, and a good evaluator of nfl talent. If it takes a bit of a dictator to bring this franchise back on track, then I'm in. I'm not saying I wouldn't accept someone else, but I think Polian can get us back to being a respectable football team. What other GMs are looking for jobs that are proven? If there's some other good options I'd be interested.
    Haven't we ad enough dictatorship with Pioli? Polian, Pioli,...Polian,...hmmmm

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    I'm not saying I'm open to a full blown dictatorship but he DOES built contending teams.
    Doing my best to keep my sons memory alive!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissingTBone View Post
    I'm not saying I'm open to a full blown dictatorship but he DOES built contending teams.
    I'm not trying to say your wrong but just show some other information on him. Before Pioli came here the exact same thing could/was said about him. My main issues with Bill are his age and him bringing Chris along with him, I think we could do better than Chris Polian. At best you might get 3 years out of the one that actually knows what he's doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    I hadn't realized he moved. Well, that's a relief. The offense didn't improve after he left, so it must've been Sanchez for sure. lol
    Fisher think Brian's ready to be a HC so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by #58ChiefsFan View Post
    I'm not trying to say your wrong but just show some other information on him. Before Pioli came here the exact same thing could/was said about him. My main issues with Bill are his age and him bringing Chris along with him, I think we could do better than Chris Polian. At best you might get 3 years out of the one that actually knows what he's doing.
    Pioli only had NE to show what he could do. Unfortunately hoodie is what makes that team so good. Polian has done it several times. BUT, you do bring up a good point with his age/son. I'd def be open to others, but I'm not sold on Marty, or Cowher being GN. I read an article about one of Pittsburg higher ups named Khan I think. If we could get him that might be good. I'm so worried that the next GM is gonna be the wrong one and we are subjected to more misery.
    Doing my best to keep my sons memory alive!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    I would love to see Schott back in KC as GM. Anyone remember who Cowher coached under? Brian Schott as OC. So, who would be DC? How 'bout this name: Kevin Greene. Spent the last 4 seasons as a LBs coach for Green Bay and I think he has some connections to Bill Cowher ; )

    This may be a pipe dream cast, but I think the pieces fit. I don't think Schott necessarily WANTS the GM position. I think he's more comfortable in a "consulting" role rather than being "the guy" running the franchise. Give him the title, and allow him to "consult" while handing the personnel decisions to Cowher who says he won't coach again unless he's given the reins.

    I'm not crazy about Brian as the OC because the Jets offense is miserable, but Sanchez is a crappy QB, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
    My guess is that Brian has very little say on what goes on under Rexy.
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