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Reflects the fact that indeed we do have talent, and it is widely recognized.
Charles, Hali, Johnson, Berry and Colquitt.
Only three other AFC teams with more representatives.
All deserving IMO. Comments?
My only comment is that its never good to have a punter on the all pro roster. A record for punts inside the twenty. Not a good reflection on our offence.
Last edited by NJChiefs; 12-26-2012 at 07:23 PM.
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So what you are saying is this:
Scott Pioli needs more time.
Yeah, it isn't Scott Pioli's job to address the qb position. Please, get out of here, and to make matters worse he traded for a terrible qb and spent 4 offseasons trying to prop cassel up and sell him as a viable starter.
There were options at qb, off the top of my head:
Josh Freeman, Andy Dalton, Russel Wilson, Kyle Orton, could even throw in Cousins. All are much better options than Cassel.
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He's definitely not my golden boy...That have been his two biggest mistakes, QB and coaching. The way I see it, put him under the gun and give him a chance to get it right w/ a new coach and a high draft pick.
And the other QBs you named, only Dalton has made the playoffs. Freeman has had one winning season in 4 years. I addressed Russell Wilson...Had we had any of the other 31 GMs in the league, Wilson would not be on this team either. Kyle Orton chose to hold a clipboard in Dallas.
I've spoken my thoughts on Pioli. It's not a popular stance I know. Oh well. We'll know his fate in less than a week. You're ignoring my other points though (about the "crappy" guys we had on this roster when CP left).
Last edited by Ryfo18; 12-27-2012 at 10:34 PM.
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Keep in mind the best QB left on the board in that draft was Mark Sanchez.
Tyson Jackson has been a productive starter for 4 years now, in a draft in which many of the top 15 picks are not even in the league anymore. That 2009 draft was awful, so plucking out a consistent starter shoudl be seen as a win in my opinion.
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Dalton certainly has more upside than anyone we have, that is for sure. He did go to a pro bowl (he was an alternate) in his second year in the league, and he was playing against 2 top defenses 4 times a year.
Russell Wilson was drafted by Carrol, who obviously looked upon Wilson as a NFL starter, why didn't Pioli?
Pioli's drafts have been mediocre at best, he has acquired absolutely NO ONE on the offensive side of the ball who is a legitimate impact player. Can you name one?
The bottomline is this, he has hired incompetent coaching staffs for 4 seasons, failed to address the qb position with 1 draft pick and 4 FA, and traded a second round pick in doing so. Mediocre drafts and conservative offseasons lead us to 2-14 Ryfo, and I have seen enough. You and I know without JC we would have absolutely no offensive production (Who wasn't a Pioli pick)
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I agree, but it's easy to have hindsight and pluck out the late/middle round QBs (Dalton/Wilson) that panned out and say, "Why didn't we pick them?" We must keep in mind that a lot of coaches/GMs didn't pick these guys. And among these guys are some crappy guys that came out (Clausen, Gabbert, Locker, etc).
Listen, I know that the 2-14 speaks loudly. I just don't think you kick a GM out after 4 years, especially when there's talent on the field. We disagree with that fundamental point, and I'll agree to disagree. Like I said, we'll know his fate soon enough.
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