A&m joeckel left tackle declares

**whackojacko58** · 01-08-2013, 05:10 PM

Ok so one of the best pro sure things joeckel has declared for the 2013 nfl draft. With albert being a free agent we could look to take the best prospect in this draft fill the most important position on the o line which keeps us from stretching for a qb. That would then allow us to take a qb either by trading back into the first or fall in love with a qb in the secound.

**2010chiefs** · 01-09-2013, 07:50 PM

Great input from both sides though. I desperately want a QB but at what price. At this point IMO at any price but I could be wrong. I'm hoping one of these QB's blow us away and seperate themselves from the pack.

**brdempsey69** · 01-09-2013, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by 2010chiefs

Great input from both sides though. I desperately want a QB but at what price. At this point IMO at any price but I could be wrong. I'm hoping one of these QB's blow us away and seperate themselves from the pack.

The Senior Bowl, combine, and private workouts are huge for both Wilson and Glennon. They have a chance to really bolster their draft stock.

Geno was advised by his agent not to play in the Senior Bowl ( or so I've heard ) and Barkley is hurt ( I'm not against taking Barkley at #34 if he were there because that ain't bad value ).

No doubt the quality QB has to come from somewhere.

**Lord-Chiefy** · 01-09-2013, 08:51 PM

Barkley wouldn't even be worth a 7th rd pick.

**brdempsey69** · 01-09-2013, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Lord-Chiefy

Barkley wouldn't even be worth a 7th rd pick.

I don't think you could push him down quite that far, as in completely undrafted. Of course, he'd be worth a 7th round pick. After all, he probably would have went in Round 1 in 2012 had he came out early.

**Lord-Chiefy** · 01-10-2013, 08:29 PM

Yea and some team would have ended up with worse then Matt.

**brdempsey69** · 01-10-2013, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lord-Chiefy

Yea and some team would have ended up with worse then Matt.

Barkley worse than Matt Cassel? At least Barkley was a starter for multiple seasons at USC compared to Cassel being a backup his whole time there.

Fill me in, what is it you dislike so much about Barkley that you wouldn't draft him?

**N TX Dave** · 01-10-2013, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by brdempsey69

Barkley worse than Matt Cassel? At least Barkley was a starter for multiple seasons at USC compared to Cassel being a backup his whole time there.

Fill me in, what is it you dislike so much about Barkley that you wouldn't draft him?

He played for USC which surrounds the QB with a lot of talent that makes him look better than he is.

**brdempsey69** · 01-10-2013, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by N TX Dave

He played for USC which surrounds the QB with a lot of talent that makes him look better than he is.

True, but Barkley can still throw the football better than Cassel. At least that was the case prior to his injury. Maybe he is permanently damaged goods. We'll know when the combine comes around. I don't know if he's be a reach at #34 in the 2nd round, although if , and that's BIG if, they were able snag Tyler Wilson at #34, that would be great value.

**Three7s** · 01-10-2013, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by brdempsey69

True, but Barkley can still throw the football better than Cassel. At least that was the case prior to his injury. Maybe he is permanently damaged goods. We'll know when the combine comes around. I don't know if he's be a reach at #34 in the 2nd round, although if , and that's BIG if, they were able snag Tyler Wilson at #34, that would be great value.

Matt Barkley is Matt Cassel with more accuracy. Barkley could be pretty good in a system designed around the WCO where he doesn't have to make any big throws. He should be a classic manage the game QB.

Better than Cassel, but I want an elite QB, not a game manager.

**brdempsey69** · 01-10-2013, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Three7s

Matt Barkley is Matt Cassel with more accuracy. Barkley could be pretty good in a system designed around the WCO where he doesn't have to make any big throws. He should be a classic manage the game QB.

Better than Cassel, but I want an elite QB, not a game manager.

It depends on what happens between now & April as far as that "elite" QB goes. It could play out that Andy Reid doesn't see any of those QB's to be elite enough to take at #1.

REMEMBER: Every QB that the Chiefs have taken in the draft since 1970 has been a bust. Double-dipping at the QB position in rounds 2 and 3 could pay off, while taking a guy like Joeckel at #1, if they go that route.

Also, the best QB ever was not taken in round 1. Joe Montana was taken #82 overall in round 3 in 1979 -- the very same year the Chiefs chose Steve Fuller in round 1 of that same draft.