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    Default CHIEFS workout Rudy Carpenter


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    who? you ask....a FA QB from TB and dallas, mostly 3rd string and practice squad


    Rudy Carpenter (QB)
    Height: 6'2"
    Weight: 218
    College:Arizona State
    Conference:Pac-12
    Hometown: Westlake, CA
    High School: Westlake


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    OverviewThe best word to describe Carpenter is "gutty." He finished his career with 43 consecutive starts, which helped him become one of the most productive quarterbacks in Pac-10 history with 10,491 passing yards and 81 career touchdowns.

    After leading the Sun Devils to a share of the Pac-10 championship in 2007 and emerging as one of the nation's most consistent passers, Carpenter and the rest of his teammates struggled through a disappointing 2008 campaign. His own statistics weren't as impressive as expected (2,493 yards, 16 TDs, nine INTs), nor was his team, a preseason top 15 pick that stumbled to a 5-7 record.

    Carpenter lacks the monster arm every NFL team is looking for, but his toughness, mobility and accuracy in the short to medium range should make him an interesting second-day option for teams using the West Coast offense. Had an arm span of 31 3/4 inches and a hand span of 8 5/8 inches at the combine.

    High SchoolA 2004 graduate of Westlake (Calif.) High School...the Los Angeles Daily News Offensive Player of the Year...a pre- and postseason All-America selection by Prepstar Magazine...listed as the No. 67 player in California by SuperPrep Magazine...listed as the No. 36 player in California and a preseason All-American by SuperPrep Magazine...rated as the No. 20 quarterback in the nation by rivals.com...played in the Cali-Florida High School All-Star game...statistics as a senior included 2,705 passing yards (163 completions on 262 attempts) and 36 touchdowns and only six interceptions...also rushed for 626 yards and seven scores...Led Westlake to a Division IV Championship and a 14-0 season...lists that season as his most exciting sports experience...as a junior, was all-state, all-league, all-county, All-C.I.F. and league Most Valuable Player...completed 295 passes on 408 pass attempts for 3,200 yards and 32 touchdowns as a junior...also had 800 yards rushing and six rushing touchdowns...also was the Most Valuable Player for Newbury Park's baseball and basketball teams as well...played at Newbury Park High School before his senior season...coached by Jim Benkert (same as current Sun Devil Josh Golden).

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    AnalysisPositives: Tough quarterback. Has played behind a leaky offensive line throughout his career and has absorbed a lot of punishment. Not a traditional running threat, but is a creative, alert scrambler who can buy some time escaping the rush to complete the pass. Keeps his eyes downfield despite heavy pressure. Acclimated quickly to new offense and has experience as a drop-back and shotgun passer. Scans the field efficiently. Gets good depth on his drop back and has a very quick set up and delivery. Good short- to medium-range accuracy -- especially for the quick slants, outs and square-ins necessary for the West Coast Offense. Flashes the touch to place the ball between defenders. Throws a very catchable ball. Consistently places passes where only his receivers can get them. Extremely competitive. Added 15 pounds of muscle during the 2008 spring.

    Negatives: Relies more on his accuracy and understanding of the offense, rather than a monster arm to complete passes. Lacks the arm for a traditional deep pass offense. Will telegraph his passes by locking onto a receiver, and lacks the arm strength to zip passes through tight windows. Won the respect of his teammates with his toughness, but has a ****y, gunslinger mentality that has drawn criticism from some.

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    I hear and read that J Russel wants to play again. Hope we dont go there.

    We need to draft at least 2 qbs in the first three rounds. I'm sick of everyone elses rejects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    Fair enough but, why trade one experiment for another. I say, in the absence of a quality QB option, why not pour our resources into making us better in spite of our QB situation instead of chasing after another sub par QB? It just seems like a waste of time to me.
    how does looking at carpenter constitute "chasing after another sub par QB"? we are only talkin bout a possible 3rd stringer here not our future franchise guy
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefnut View Post
    how does looking at carpenter constitute "chasing after another sub par QB"? we are only talkin bout a possible 3rd stringer here not our future franchise guy
    That's not good enough we need to draft a QB the first two rounds and then sign an undrafted QB to fix all our QB problems that is the only way to do it, don't you know anything. If we don't get three new QB not on any NFL our QBs will suck and we will not finish above 500 for years to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefnut View Post
    how does looking at carpenter constitute "chasing after another sub par QB"? we are only talkin bout a possible 3rd stringer here not our future franchise guy
    Adding depth is one thing, but I just don't see the since in looking at someone who's best was third string or practice squad with TB or Dallas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by N TX Dave View Post
    That's not good enough we need to draft a QB the first two rounds and then sign an undrafted QB to fix all our QB problems that is the only way to do it, don't you know anything. If we don't get three new QB not on any NFL our QBs will suck and we will not finish above 500 for years to come.
    Not once have I ever suggested anything so ridiculous.


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    You didn't say it but others are saying it and you do not want to waste our time with other teams rejects. If we don't draft 3 QBs how are we going to not get someone else's reject we need at least 3 QB so it has to be a reject?

    "We need to draft at least 2 qbs in the first three rounds. I'm sick of everyone elses rejects."

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    Quote Originally Posted by N TX Dave View Post
    You didn't say it but others are saying it and you do not want to waste our time with other teams rejects. If we don't draft 3 QBs how are we going to not get someone else's reject we need at least 3 QB so it has to be a reject?

    "We need to draft at least 2 qbs in the first three rounds. I'm sick of everyone elses rejects."
    When did I ever say that?


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    You didn't say it but others have I was just giving an example of what I read in here.

    I am just following your logic that we do not want anyone's rejects that means we have to bring in 3 new QBs this year if we only bring in 1 or 2 we will have to pick up someones rejects or keep one or two of the ones we have.

    Ask Denver if they are sorry they got someone's reject this year seems they did pretty good with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N TX Dave View Post
    You didn't say it but others have I was just giving an example of what I read in here.

    I am just following your logic that we do not want anyone's rejects that means we have to bring in 3 new QBs this year if we only bring in 1 or 2 we will have to pick up someones rejects or keep one or two of the ones we have.

    Ask Denver if they are sorry they got someone's reject this year seems they did pretty good with him.
    Maybe I just haven't been keeping up with Chiefs news. Have we done away with all three of our current QBs?

    Payton Manning is not a third string / practice squad reject.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    Maybe I just haven't been keeping up with Chiefs news. Have we done away with all three of our current QBs?

    Payton Manning is not a third string / practice squad reject.

    it seems some think we need all 3 new QBs to be competitive next season. We only need the right ONE to be competitive. certainly a competent #2 is a necessitiy for long term success. the #3 can be a project, or an over the hill vet. it may well turn out that the new regime likes stanzi enuf to keep him and there is also tanney who shouild be healthy next season. so i will agree we NEED a starting QB and can really use a #2, that should do us nicely. i personally don't care where we get them from as long as they can do the job.
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