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    Release Tyson Jackson
    Let Dorsey Walk
    Let Albert Walk
    Re-sign Bowe
    Re-sign Pitoitua
    Re-sign Colquitt

    Free Agent Signings:

    WR- Gregg Jennings
    TE- Jared Cook
    OG- Andy Levitre
    LB- Phillip Wheeler

    Trades:

    Trade 2nd round pick to Minnesota who target the best QB available for picks 52 and 83 (3rd rd).

    Trade pick 52 to the Eagles for QB Nick Foles.


    Draft:

    1st Round
    LT Luke Joekel Texas A&M
    The Chiefs replace Branden Albert with a less expensive upgrade in Luke Joekel. They get better value with this pick than if they had decided to take a QB #1 overall. Joekel fits into a line that boasts Jon Asamoah, Rodney Hudson, Andy Levitre, and Eric Winston with depth provided by in Stephenson and Allen.

    3rd Round
    3a.
    LB Khaseem Greene Rutgers
    He's a play-making, game changing LB who was also the back-to-back Big East defensive Player of the year. Greene had arguably the best junior and senior seasons of ANY Big East player. It's unknown as to which flavor of the 3-4 defense we'll be running, but it's a pretty good bet that we'll need LB help no matter what. One Derrick Johnson, one of the great values Greene offers is his versatility and ability to be extremely useful in ANY type of defensive scheme.

    3rd Round
    3b. (from Vikings)
    RB Marcus Lattimore South Carolina
    The Chiefs have decent depth behind Charles and this pick is probably superfluous, but c'mon... the best running back in this class is still on the board in the 4th round. There's very little downside to this selection. Yes, he's a risk having had 2 knee surgeries in the past 2 seasons. Gotta couple names for you though: Willis McGahee and Frank Gore. Both of those guys were in the same boat and have had pretty successful NFL careers. I wouldn't consider this player too much of an injury risk considering the circumstances that occurred to cause his injury. Lattimore is 6'0, 232 lbs and could essentially give the Chiefs a Jamaal Charles/Adrian Peterson 1-2 punch for the foreseeable future. Talk about a change of pace back. Can you imagine taking a beating from Lattimore for 6 to 8 plays and then chasing Charles 40 yards and then getting hit in the mouth from Lattimore the next play? ...wow.

    3c. (compensation for Carr)
    S Bacarri Rambo Georgia
    The Chiefs need some stability next to Eric Berry. Rambo is a ball-hawking FS that would fit perfectly next to Berry... and let's be honest... that's a badass football name.

    4th Round
    QB Tyler Bray Tennessee
    Tyler Bray is arguably the most talented QB in the 2013 crop. He's foregoing his senior year at Tennessee where he would probably be better served in his development. Bray is a great draft-and-develop prospect who would probably benefit greatly from sitting for a couple seasons to learn Andy Reid's system. The only problem I see with this pick is that Bray is as close to a statue in the pocket as there could possibly be and there haven't been too many of those drafted by Reid. But this is MY mock and I think Bray could be a good pick for the Chiefs if they can protect him.

    5th
    DB Tyrann Mathieu LSU (Sat out a year)
    Off the field issues should not scare anyone away from top 5 talent in the 5th round. We need another play-maker in the secondary and you couldn't ask for a better one than the "Honey Badger" in the 5th round. (**may be worth a higher pick as we get closer to the draft)

    6th Round
    WR Marquise Goodwin Texas
    Olympic athlete with elite speed and play-making ability. Sounds like a good WR option to throw in the mix at WR, KR, and PR.

    7th Round
    WR Uzoma Nwachukwu TX A&M
    Good WR this late in the draft is never bad. You should always be on the lookout for playmakers in the last couple rounds of the draft. Nwachukwu and Goodwin present good upside for late round draft picks and if nothing else should endear themselves to the special teams coaches.



    Assuming the players are available, I really like the first 6 picks. The Chiefs will have a gluttony of WRs if they re-sign Dwayne Bowe, so I could be persuaded to take other players in the 6th and 7th rounds. Finding play-makers should be the priority and not necessarily trying to find players to plug holes that late. I think you're looking at 5 starter coming out of this group if you include Foles. Lattimore will have the luxury of sitting as long as he needs to heal because of Jamaal Charles. Bray has arguably the most upside of any QB in this draft. Letting him sit and develop would be great for him. There's a little risk here, but when you look at Joekel, Lattimore (injury), Mathieu (immaturity), and Bray, there were absolutely scenarios that could've played out over this past season that could've seen each of these guys taken in the top 10 overall in this draft class. Talent is talent is talent and when we could take the next Adrian Peterson in the 3rd or a shut down, ball-hawking, play-making DB in the 5th, you spring at the chance... risk be damned! We're not talking about 3000 point gambles here like Geno Smith #1 overall. These picks cost less that 300 points... you can afford to take risks with these picks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    I wonder if the Raven's LT had anything to do with protecting Flacco in their SB win?
    I also wonder if Flacco actually throwing the ball accurately to the point where his receivers can make a play after the catch had something to do with that SB win, as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Three7s View Post
    I also wonder if Flacco actually throwing the ball accurately to the point where his receivers can make a play after the catch had something to do with that SB win, as well.
    Yeah it had nothing to do with boldin making catches none of our receivers would have. To me boldin was the MVP of that game. Did you see some of those catches. When all you have to do is throw a ball in to a 12x12 area and know your receiver is gonna win the battle who gets the credit?????!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    I wonder if the Raven's LT had anything to do with protecting Flacco in their SB win?
    How many times was he knocked down or sacked by arguably one of the best defenses is in the league. I think aldon smith got their once....maybe. You are right thought it had nothin to do with the receivers making plays at all, or the offensive line giving him 5 and six seconds to throw the ball that obviously had nothing to do with flaccos success. He was facing constant pressure and stood tallwith four guys around his ankles throwing it into windows the size of pennies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three7s View Post
    I want an LT with the first pick of draft, no matter how stupid and pointless it is! Despite the fact that Albert is a proven player who has had absolutely no long-term health issues and has been a stable block since he was drafted, the fact is that you can't have too many LTs on a team because LTs win SUPER BOWLS! WRITE IT DOWN BABY! Who needs a QB? We can just hand it off to the RB every play!

    WE ARE GOING TO BE THE GREATEST TEAM WITH A CRAPPY QB EVER!
    No one is saying what you are claiming and you are being an absolute arse by doing so. We are saying that there are other options than reaching for a QB that may not be up to the task of leading a franchise vs trading for one that our current head coach drafted and likes in nick Foles. So how is TC being arrogant about a topic when you in turn won't move off your Geno effing smith pedestal. This sit is full of effing hypocrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthewschiefs View Post
    Lets say while going to the fence you see that the stuff they have at the store just isn't as good as what you can get from the farmer down the street which would you go for?

    I will keep saying that this talk that we can't draft anyone but a QB at 1 is just WRONG. Sorry but it is. Are the Faiders looking great taking Russel at 1 or would you rather have Calvin Johnson? Or AP? A big part of the reason they are in the boat that they are is that they chose the WRONG QB to build around and passed on some pretty damn good players. Is that something any of us really want? Just go look at the 1999 nfl draft and the 1st round qbs there. It's a whos who of BUST. Do we really want Tim Couch,Akili Smith,Cade Mcnown? It's just not true to say we HAVE to get a QB in this draft to get better. We can get better while getting A qb elsewhere if it's not there.

    There's a chance that one of the QBs in this draft will really show something in the combine if that happens I will fully support drafting that QB. But until that happens I will keep saying we can't just look at QB we have to look to get the best player. When you have 1st pick you're taking the biggest risk on that player. You have to be willing to take that risk. But you also have to make that an educated risk. If you just draft a QB because you happen to need a QB and ignore taking any other player at 1 you're setting yourself up to take a bust and passing up on some REALLY good players. That just won't get you anywhere. If a QB steps it up and moves up the rankings in the combine then it's a no brainer TAKE THAT GUY. But if no QB does then it's a no brainer take someone else that did step up.
    You are correct, we dont have to take a chance on drafting a qb in the first, we can do business as usual and pick up some one elses washed up qb's and go 2 and 14 again. Certainly we have choices. Or we could draft a qb in the fifth round and keep him on the team for a couple of years and then release him. We all see how that stratagy has worked. Of course we take a risk on taking a qb in the first, but its a risk we have to take if we want to win the big one. We have a lot of talent on this team, and they wont stick around if they see no chance of winning and no qb gives us no chance of winning. 6 probowlers with our record? And people are still blind to the fact that teams cant win, without a very good or great qb. You wont find a qb in that catagory in fa very often. They have to be drafted. Theres a much better chance of scoring in the first round, and thats a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N TX Dave View Post
    I don't think anyone in here does not want a QB we all know we need a QB but you can not will a franchise QB to appear out of thin air, if there is not one there, there is not one there, move on.

    Drafting a QB 1st this year is like having that hole in the fence and you go to town to buy the fence and the hardware store only has chicken wire on hand and you know that won't hold the cattle in are you going to waste you money buying it anyhow?
    Couldn't agree with you more, thats exactly my point! And the absolute best way to do that is drafting one in the first round. Its by FAR the best way to get a true Franchise QB. Its always a risk, but one that will pay off sooner then the old way the chiefs did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70 chiefsfan70 View Post
    You are correct, we dont have to take a chance on drafting a qb in the first, we can do business as usual and pick up some one elses washed up qb's and go 2 and 14 again. Certainly we have choices. Or we could draft a qb in the fifth round and keep him on the team for a couple of years and then release him. We all see how that stratagy has worked. Of course we take a risk on taking a qb in the first, but its a risk we have to take if we want to win the big one. We have a lot of talent on this team, and they wont stick around if they see no chance of winning and no qb gives us no chance of winning. 6 probowlers with our record? And people are still blind to the fact that teams cant win, without a very good or great qb. You wont find a qb in that catagory in fa very often. They have to be drafted. Theres a much better chance of scoring in the first round, and thats a fact.
    So just because we don't draft a qb means we are going to go 2-14 now? That's funny I don't recall Trent Green being bad for us and going 2-14 with him. Like it or not a number of teams have done will not drafting a QB. The Rams won a superbowl with a guy who was bagging groceries for crying out loud. There's MORE THEN 1 WAY to get a QB. You can deny it. And Getting a QB outside of the draft doesn't mean you're going to be a bad team. Unless you think the Saints have been horrible with Drew Brees. The Texans with Matt Schaub The Jets are far ahead of them because they drafted Mark Sanchez? Like I said this whole talk that "we have to take a QB at 1" Just isn't true. There are FACTS that go against it.

    A QB at number 1 would be nice but only if one of the Qbs out there in the draft step up in the combine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Three7s View Post
    I also wonder if Flacco actually throwing the ball accurately to the point where his receivers can make a play after the catch had something to do with that SB win, as well.
    I don't, his OL gave him the time he needed to survey the field and make such a throw. I keep hearing about how a LT doesn't win Super Bowls. Well I agree, a LT by himself wins nothing the same as a QB. Many here, myself included, for years in seasons past lamented the fact that the team seemed to be ignoring the OL and drafted other positions. I don't discount at all in any way, shape, or form the need for a solid QB but also believe it all starts up front.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    I don't, his OL gave him the time he needed to survey the field and make such a throw. I keep hearing about how a LT doesn't win Super Bowls. Well I agree, a LT by himself wins nothing the same as a QB. Many here, myself included, for years in seasons past lamented the fact that the team seemed to be ignoring the OL and drafted other positions. I don't discount at all in any way, shape, or form the need for a solid QB but also believe it all starts up front.


    In other words we can draft or sign a line equal to to the OL that the Ravens have any Cassel or any other qb on the chiefs team would and could be comparable to Flacco?????????

    It takes the entire team, not just the line. You could hand pick the best 5 front in the entire league and chances are he would not come up with more then 6 wins. The reason our OL looks weak, the every D knows he cant throw and all you have to do is blitz 2 3 or more guys and he will throw interception or sack or incomplete pass. The chiefs are and have been a 1 dementional football team and will remain so till the qb gets addressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70 chiefsfan70 View Post
    In other words we can draft or sign a line equal to to the OL that the Ravens have any Cassel or any other qb on the chiefs team would and could be comparable to Flacco?????????

    It takes the entire team, not just the line. You could hand pick the best 5 front in the entire league and chances are he would not come up with more then 6 wins. The reason our OL looks weak, the every D knows he cant throw and all you have to do is blitz 2 3 or more guys and he will throw interception or sack or incomplete pass. The chiefs are and have been a 1 dementional football team and will remain so till the qb gets addressed.
    Nope, absolutely NOT what I was saying at all. You're right, it does take the entire team, but offensively it all STARTS up front. It doesn't matter how good the QB is if he spends most of the time on his back looking up at the sky. As stated above: I DON'T discount the need for a solid QB. A good team is greater than the sum of its parts: the O-line has to block, running backs have to be able to utilize those blocks, QBs have to be able to make sound decisions in four seconds or less and deliver the ball, WRs have to get open and make the catch. Unfortunately a team doesn't get unlimited picks within the time allotted each round of the draft, so we're stuck with either taking the best player available or filling team holes and addressing the rest of team needs through FA.
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