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    Sorry to make a new thread, but I feel like my other post would have been buried by some of the bickering in the other Albert threads.

    Apparently Albert is demanding more money than the Dolphins are willing to pay (8-9 million, which is what Miami DIDN'T pay Jake Long). This is the scenario that I thought would happen. Unfortunately, we will probably keep Albert for another year.


    So, what are our options?


    The ideal would be to trade out of the #1 pick. Ideally, the Jets really want G. smith and would give us their 2 #1s to get him. Not really likely, but it would be ideal. If that happened, I would take Star and either Fluker (to play RT), Eifert, Vaccaro, ogletree or one of the WRs. Any of those I would be fine with, or even trading down further with one of the picks to get a couple seconds this year and next.


    Thats not really likely, so hopefully maybe someoneelse in the top 10 really likes Joeckel, Smith or Jordan and wants to trade with us. Then we take the BPA. Hopefully one of the tackles is still there, if not, maybe trade down further and stock up on mid round picks and picks next year.


    If that doesn't work out, my last option would be to pick up one of the tackles and put him on the R side for a year. I dont see anyone worth the number one pick at a position of need for us. I don't think G. smith is going to be good in this league. We don't need an OLB like Dion Jordan, and I think DT is a need, but more for depth need than starters.


    I kinda hope if we draft Joeckel and keep Albert, we tell him he is going to play RT. If he is serious about sitting out, prove it. If he does, we don't have to pay him and we have more cap space next year.


    At least we will probably get a 4th round compensatory pick if he walks in free agency.

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    i think branden has 2 options

    option 1. take 6 mil a year and sign with the dolphins.

    option 2. refuse and stay here get forced into playing right tackle and like it or you will be shooting yourself in your own foot for next year.

    i think the chiefs have already made up their mind as far as albert's long term tenure with the chiefs. unless they get an offer to move back 2 or 3 spots and still get 1 of the 2 premier tackles. or they get an offer they simply cant refuse to move further back. expet the chiefs to take the best player avilable with the 1st overall pick. witch is joeckel or fisher either way i dont see albert being our starting lt in 2 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    I kinda hope if we draft Joeckel and keep Albert, we tell him he is going to play RT. If he is serious about sitting out, prove it. If he does, we don't have to pay him and we have more cap space next year.

    You nailed it there. They should still take one of the Tackles & tell Albert that he's either playing Guard or he isn't playing. Let him sit out.

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    If Albert is going to accept a $6m/yr long-term extension, it should be with the Chiefs. Arguing otherwise is ridiculous. I don't think he signs that contract and will end up just playing on the tag this year. Given the histories of the two players, I'd give Albert $8m/yr before I gave it to Long. If I'm the Chiefs and Albert signs a $6m/yr deal with us, I'm trying desperately to trade out of #1. Even if the Chiefs trade Albert for a 2nd round pick to Miami, I'd still have a hard time walking away from #9, #13, and #39 if the Jets were to offer for #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    If Albert is going to accept a $6m/yr long-term extension, it should be with the Chiefs. Arguing otherwise is ridiculous. I don't think he signs that contract and will end up just playing on the tag this year. Given the histories of the two players, I'd give Albert $8m/yr before I gave it to Long. If I'm the Chiefs and Albert signs a $6m/yr deal with us, I'm trying desperately to trade out of #1. Even if the Chiefs trade Albert for a 2nd round pick to Miami, I'd still have a hard time walking away from #9, #13, and #39 if the Jets were to offer for #1.
    I suspect that the Chiefs may have already offered Albert something close to that before they tagged him & he wouldn't take it. As for Albert vs. Long, if we were talking about both players being completely healthy, then I'd take Long as he's the better blocker than Albert all around, but Long has been injury prone the last 3 years.

    The problem with with signing Albert now, is they are only 3 mill under the cap with the FA's that they signed and they will have to do some chopping elsewhere on their roster to clear up the cap space to not only sign Albert to said deal, but their draft picks as well.

    If they can't trade down, they'd still be wise to take Joeckel or Fisher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    I suspect that the Chiefs may have already offered Albert something close to that before they tagged him & he wouldn't take it. As for Albert vs. Long, if we were talking about both players being completely healthy, then I'd take Long as he's the better blocker than Albert all around, but Long has been injury prone the last 3 years.

    The problem with with signing Albert now, is they are only 3 mill under the cap with the FA's that they signed and they will have to do some chopping elsewhere on their roster to clear up the cap space to not only sign Albert to said deal, but their draft picks as well.

    If they can't trade down, they'd still be wise to take Joeckel or Fisher.
    Actually, if they were to sign Albert to 6mil this offseason, it would free up 2.8 mil. I would be satisfied with signing Albert to 6mil long term. Maybe he gets rejected by Miami and realizes that he had a good offer here. If we did that, I would seriously consider any offer to trade out of the top 5, even if it was just for a 2nd rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jap1 View Post
    Actually, if they were to sign Albert to 6mil this offseason, it would free up 2.8 mil. I would be satisfied with signing Albert to 6mil long term. Maybe he gets rejected by Miami and realizes that he had a good offer here. If we did that, I would seriously consider any offer to trade out of the top 5, even if it was just for a 2nd rounder.
    I think you mean 3.8 mill that it would free up, instead of 2.8 mill, but your point is well taken, and so much the better. But, there is still the back issue that remains a very a HUGE question mark. You are correct, a trade down would be more in order, but, until proven wrong, I just don't see anybody trading into #1

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    I think you mean 3.8 mill that it would free up, instead of 2.8 mill, but your point is well taken, and so much the better. But, there is still the back issue that remains a very a HUGE question mark. You are correct, a trade down would be more in order, but, until proven wrong, I just don't see anybody trading into #1
    Thanks for the correction. I think I wrote 2.8 because in my nead, I was trying to decide if I would pay him 7mil/yr. Which I think I would, especially if we were able to trade out of the #1 spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaschief View Post
    .Even if the Chiefs trade Albert for a 2nd round pick to Miami, I'd still have a hard time walking away from #9, #13, and #39 if the Jets were to offer for #1.

    You wouldn't walk away from that -- it's too good an offer. But, you'd better hope that Stephenson and Allen become stellar pass-protectors at the Tackle spots real freaking quick ( not sure they have quite the skills in that area that Joeckel and Fisher have ) or Alex Smith could be in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdempsey69 View Post
    You wouldn't walk away from that -- it's too good an offer. But, you'd better hope that Stephenson and Allen become stellar pass-protectors at the Tackle spots real freaking quick ( not sure they have quite the skills in that area that Joeckel and Fisher have ) or Alex Smith could be in trouble.
    But that's assuming we don't take any good OT's in this upcoming draft. Trading Albert for a 2nd round pick, then the #1 pick for 2 1sts and another 2nd should put you in position to add some depth on the OL. There are definitely scenarios where Lane Johnson falls to #9. Hell, Fischer could even fall.

    Just off the top of my head:

    1. NYJ-G. Smith (LT: Furgeson)
    2. Jax-D. Jordan (LT: Monroe)
    3. Oak-D. Milliner (LT: Veldeer)
    4. Phi-S. Lotulelei (#1 LT Peters returns from achilles tear)
    5. Det-E. Ansah (2012 first round pick Reiff)
    6. Cle-J. Jones (#2 LT Thomas)
    7. Arz-Joekel/Fischer (LT Levi Brown)
    8. Buf-R. Nassib (LT: Demetrius Bell) If they think they can get Nassib in the 2nd, they could go LT here.

    9.Chiefs- At the worst, Lane Johnson is still here. If Arizona is content with Levi Brown at LT and want impact somewhere else and then Buffalo goes with Nassib, the Chiefs could still have the pick of the litter at #9. One of the benefits of being perennially bad is that you probably have had a shot at a pretty good LT in previous drafts. The teams picking in the top ten are usually picking in the top 10 where the likes of Furgeson, Monroe, Peters, and Thomas were drafted. There isn't much need for LT's by the teams in the top 10. If the Chiefs aren't picking in the top 6, I just don't see an OT taken before then.

    Bottom line, I think there would be at least 1 of the top 3 OT's available at #9 if the Chiefs were to pick there. Warmack or Cooper at #13 would be pretty cool too. Kenny Vaccaro would look really nice next to Eric Berry, but with all the DB help we've already signed, that might be overkill. I would guess Sheldon Richardson would be the pick in that scenario, however. Allen and Asamoah can lock down the OG spots, plus there's more picks in the 2nd round to help there. Taking an OG in the first half of the draft is just silly IMO. The value simply isn't there. Mingo could be available here as well.

    Of course, if the Chiefs get the player they want at #9, there's always the possibility of the Chiefs trading back with that #13 pick. Perhaps targeting one of the good TE's, ILB's, or WR's in the mid-20's while maybe picking up a 3rd 2nd round pick. I know that if I got at LT at #9, that's what I would want to do.



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